Rumor: Samsung Hercules is a 4.5 Inch Dual-Core Beast for T-Mobile, But It Isn’t a Galaxy S II


Our friends at This Is My Next have uncovered another supposed forthcoming phone. This time, T-Mobile is getting some 4.5 inch love from Samsung in the form of the Hercules. (Quite the appropriate name if this spec sheet is accurate.) You’re most likely going to think about the Infuse 4G, but that phone wasn’t dual core.

This one is. And with that, you’ll probably think – “oh, a Galaxy S II!” Unlikely – this one isn’t housing Samsung’s Exynos chipset, and it isn’t even housing NVIDIA’s Tegra 2. Inside is a 1.2GHz APQ8060 processor by Qualcomm, the same processor that runs HP’s tablet. And if you know that, you’ll know that it’s no slouch. Its Adreno 220 GPU delivers insane graphics performance and high-definition video playback at buttery-smooth framerates. Here are the full specs as listed by TIMN:

  • 4.5-inch 480 x 800 Super AMOLED Plus display
  • Android 2.3 (Gingerbread)
  • NFC support, though compatibility with the forthcoming ISIS mobile payment standard is “to be determined”
  • Category 24 HSDPA (42Mbps) and Category 6 HSUPA (5.76Mbps) for extremely fast HSPA+ support — faster than any HSPA+ phone currently sold in the US
  • AWS plus 850 / 1900MHz compatibility for support on AT&T’s “4G” network if the merger succeeds
  • Preliminary measurements place it at 5.16 x 2.76 x 0.37 inches — within a few hundredths of an inch of the Infuse
  • 16GB internal ROM, 1GB internal RAM, external microSD up to 32GB
  • Here’s where it outdoes the Infuse: it’s quoted with a Qualcomm 1.2GHz dual-core APQ8060 application processor, which is extraordinarily unusual for a Samsung — particularly considering the availability of Samsung’s own multi-core Exynos line; it’s paired with an MDM8220 modem processor
  • 8 megapixel primary camera with flash and 1080p video capture, secondary front-facing camera
  • Like the Galaxy S II, the Hercules won’t have a dedicated HDMI port — it’ll move high-def video over Micro USB using MHL

With all of this, you have to wonder why T-Mobile would even want the Galaxy S II, which could explain why their name didn’t show up next to Sprint’s, Verizon’s and AT&T’s on an accessory listing for the device. Let’s not go too far, though. We still have a long way to go to see this one pan out and it could very well end up being a compliment rather than a replacement to the S II.

Quentyn Kennemer
The "Google Phone" sounded too awesome to pass up, so I bought a G1. The rest is history. And yes, I know my name isn't Wilson.

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  1. How the hell is the nation’s smallest carrier, that may get absorbed, getting so many sweet phones!?!?

    1. Why the hell has nobody pointed out the “42Mbps”. If my current phone has a theoretical 14mbps and I actually get 7-8 mbps, this phone should be beast!

      1. I want to know is yes 42Mbps is awesome but when you have a 5GB cap why would you want to hit that cap faster?

  2.  If that is a 4.5 inch lcd than they better trim some of the face not containing screen…..

    1. aka, bezel.  

    2. I think if they could make it edge to edge on the sides, and trim a lot from the top and bottom, also by removing the physical buttons and implementing them in the interface like in Honeycomb, a 4.5″ phone could probably be about as big as a regular 4.3″ one. But imagine that screen at 1280×800 resolution (335 PPI). That would be sweet.

    3.  Key word Super AM”OLED” plus as in its not lcd it OLED 

  3.  Why the low res?

  4. OMG Adreno 220! this is the GPU that will give Tegra2/Exynos/TI OMAP4 a run for their money! wow. this is awesome =D

    1.  and yes i know i’m listing SoC’s/CPU’s there.  but those who know the tech know what i mean

    2.  yea the same one in the EVO 3G.

      1.  last i remembered the EVO 4G came packed with the Adreno 200 GPU.

        1. Adreno 220 on the EVO 3D 

        2.  He said Evo 3D…

    3. Try to play some Tegra exclusive games on those other gpus lol. 

      1.  Tried in my SGS2..plays like a charm.

        1.  Yeah Pinball HD and Solitaire. That’s about it. They used standard android texture compression (ETC1), which is compatible with other mobile GPUs. The big games are using DXT texture compression format that is popular in TegraPCConsoles and won’t play on other Android GPUs. MALI GPU in SGS2 just added even more fragmentation to Android gaming.

  5.  Its a good thing it comes with At&t’s bands too, if the merger goes through. i sure as hell hope its stock and could this mean that T-mobile won’t get GS2?

    1.  it could, because the Adreno 220 will supposedly destroy all current GPU’s (PowerVR SGX 540/ULP GeForce)

      1.  Cool. i’m pretty sure that the APQ8060 is faster than the processor in the Sensation and Evo 3d. If ATT and T-Mobile merge then ATT will have two crazy fast phones – SGS2 and the Hercules.APQ8060 is faster than the processor in the Sensation and Evo 3d. If ATT and T-Mobile merge then ATT will have two crazy fast phones – SGS2 and the Hercules.

      2. I highly doubt it unless the 220 is miraculously faster than the 205; and from what I’ve seen, it’s just tweaked to work for dual-processor-cores.  The Adreno 205 is slower than the SGX535 in the original Droid 1 (released in December of 2009 may I remind)

    2. I would prefer it to not have dual bands. Kinda looking forward to getting an early upgrade if and when tmo has to switch over to att bands.

  6.  What’s the point of getting a T-mobile phone anymore?

    1. Derp O_o

  7. 4.5 inches is too big.

    Even my evo is hard to carry around sometimes.

    1. it looks like a small tablet 

      1. You mean a MID and no thats only after 5inches

    2.  No I want a 5″.

      1. Thats what she said.lol 

  8.  This is good :) Looks like Samsung is keeping its Exynos CPU’s exclusive for the SGS II !!!!

  9.  And don’t forget Samsung’s unlocked bootloader policy. Sensation may have just gotten a chill down it’s spine.

  10.  If this has a Qualcomm processor, I wont get it. If it has Exynos, I’ll get it.

    1. agreed but who knows what that processes will do on the phone. 

  11. Off topic here but I cant stand these new advertisements that phandroid is now putting on every page.  I get a fricking pop up about the blackberry playbook and when I am on my phone it is really irritating to try to hit that little x in the corner.  Plenty of other android sites out there phandroid…..you should consider removing those pop-ups.  What is this AOL?

  12. Its a rumor at best. why would samsung promote processors that arent made by samsung especially a competint 1.2 dual core. i call bs

    1. Its a rumor at best. why would samsung promote processors that arent made by samsung especially a competing 1.2 dual core. i call bs.

    2. Samsung did it with BH2… and even after that as well. It could be because that chipset might allow for 42mbps when exyenos may only do 21mbps either way this will be hella powerful.

  13.  So these three are all running the 3rd generation Snapdragon with Adreno 220 it seems:

    HTC EVO 3D

    HTC Sensation 4G 
    Samsung Hercules

  14.  480×800 for a 4.5″ device lol..
     that ruined everything

    1.  agreed

    2. Chill… It has Super Amoled Plus the picture will still be beautiful 

  15. This phone does look pretty impressive.  I just wish that we would see the samsung galaxy s2 for tmobile.  either way, this phone does look promising and hopefull it will perform as good if not better than the galaxy s2.

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