Google Software Engineer Talks About 8 Month Waiting Period Before New Devices Launch With Updated Software [Update]


There’s been all kinds of chatter today in regard to Google releasing the Android 4.0.4 source code today. A lot of excitement, a bit of disappointment and possibly even a dash of rage mixed in there as well. For those of you with non-Nexus or rooted devices, I’m sure the first thought that immediately comes to mind is, “When I can expect to see this update on my device?” Well, Jean-Baptiste Queru, one of Android’s software engineer legends, helped shed a little light on this subject with a post on his Google+ page today. Brace yourself — many of you wont like what he had to say.

Typically, there’s about an 8 month delay from when Android 4.0.4 is released (today), to the amount of time it will will take for new devices to launch with this software. This is a sipmle observation from a man who’s worked 10+ years in the software industry. Despite what irate commenters on blog posts, Facebook pages and forums would have you believe, the process isn’t exactly as easy as cake. No, sir. Here are the steps all new devices must take before they can hit consumers hands as told by Mr. Queru,

Why 8 months? It’s about the time it takes for the software to get ported to the chips that get used in a new phone, then to get it to run on the actual phone, then to have features added to it by the manufacturer, then to have it customized for the specific phone and for the specific operator, then to have it tested by the device manufacturer, then to have it certified and approved by the operator that will sell and support the device, then to have the actual devices manufactured, distributed to the stores and put on the shelves.

I’ll even go ahead and add an extra step for tech support training (both carrier and manufacturer). Basically, what I’m trying to get at is it’s a lengthy process. Now, when it comes to updating existing devices, JBQ mentions the process can be dramatically decreased and shouldn’t take as long. Anyone with an Android device who follows these matters closely can tell that this process can take even longer than 8 months depending on the OEM/device. It’s a reality we all have to live with. Either that or pack your bags and move towards more “closed” pastures.

Of course, for those of us die-hard Android enthusiasts who like to remain on the bleeding edge of technology and Android releases, root and the Android modding community, provide us with an easy (although sometimes buggy) way of circumventing this timeline and time consuming carrier/OEM testing. Believe it or not, some of you out there can already enjoy an Android 4.0.4 ROM at this very moment.

UPDATE: Jean clarified that his statement was in regard to how long before a major Android release is available, to when we can expect shiny new devices to launch with the updated software. Updating devices, especially when it’s an incremental release within the same firmware can take a dramatically less amount of time — or longer depending on OEM/carrier — as we’ve seen so often in the past. He goes on to say he has no idea when updates will even hit Google’s Nexus devices (which makes sense seeing how he just helps get the software out there and isn’t involved in the update process). Still, Mr. Queru’s observation gives us some insight on what goes on behind the scenes, and the lengthy approval process Android has to go through before it’s officially ready for market.

What do you guys think of Jean-Baptiste’s “8 month” statement. Does this make a little more sense as to why we’re still seeing devices launch with Gingerbread and not Ice Cream Sandwich? When it comes to updates, what do you think is a reasonable amount of time before an Android version drops, to when it arrives on your current device? Aside from OEM’s shipping all their devices with stock, vanilla Android (never, EVER going to happen so no bother complaining about it), what do you think can be done to speed up this process?

Chris Chavez
I've been obsessed with consumer technology for about as long as I can remember, be it video games, photography, or mobile devices. If you can plug it in, I have to own it. Preparing for the day when Android finally becomes self-aware and I get to welcome our new robot overlords.

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  1. Maybe our little buddy, Chris Chavez over at Phandroid can pull some strings with his connections and shorten the waiting period to say like 3 months or less? Maybe? =D

    1. I like the waiting. Makes me want it more.. O_o

      1. That’s what she said!

  2. 8 months for an update? I don’t think that is what he was talking about. Maybe from the introduction of ICS back in November 2011. Look at the Galaxy S2, it’s already getting ICS updates in foreign markets.

    1. I’m reading post after post, wondering if reading comprehension is dead.. The quote is obviously about manufacturing a new phone with an update, and not about updating existing devices… The last sentence “Then to have the actual devices manufactured, distributed to the stores and put on the shelves.” .. Should be a clue.. I think it’s others, including Mr Chavez who are snowblind, not you.

  3. yeah right.. and releasing phones with open bootloader would have been too complex anyway -.-

  4. This is pathetic.. I have a galaxy tab 10.1 rooted ics with NO working camera.(yes i know why) Been like that forever. This is getting really old really fast… I shouldn’t have to know how to root, sdf etc just to get ics in a timely matter… I really fill like Samsung is taking there sweet ass time on releasing ics for the 10.1 just because they can… They gone mess around & ima go get me an asus prime on there asses

  5. That’s disappointing when i’ve seen the Custom Rom community doing stuff within a week to a month after official roms are leaked.
    Some custom rom creators are so insane, you get weekly updates.
    Flashing your device (though exciting) can be a pain at that point.

    1. Doesn’t help is the bootloader is locked or for the 90% who don’t want to be phone geeks to use their phone.

    2. Cyanogen does nightly roms, dont forget

  6. I think the big problem a lot of us have is that we feel some of these steps can, and sometimes, should be ignored. I don’t have quite such a big issue with the likes of HTC, Samsung etc. adding their own interfaces to devices, although it would be nice if there was an option to run stock android, but I do get mighty mad when I’m waiting on an update due to carriers putting some crap bloatware on a phone that I don’t even want and can’t install.

  7. Fits the carrier model of buy new to upgrade so this will never improve for us stock phone users.

  8. It makes sense. It sucks but that’s just the way it is, especially with 4.0 going with hardware accelerated gpu drivers. I’m by no means an expert on, well anything, but this could be alleviated by more manufacturers using the same hardware vendors. Like if the Galaxy S 2, Xperia, and Atrix all used the same CPU/GPU the drivers could be easily ported between them. Kinda how you can hellraise the galaxy roms. Goes against Android’s open nature though and they’d have to update the kernel less frequently. Again, I could be completely wrong about any of this and I know little about Linux drivers. For all I know, God’s personal unicorn could be trotting around Google HQ eating Motoblur and Touchwiz while defecating piles of driver code for 5.0 Jellybean.

  9. This is what will be the death of Android. Fragmentation and lack of updates for devices. Google knows this, and yet they won’t do anything. Google needs to mandate no UIs. This small step will eliminate both problems.

    1. Not a lack of updates… SGS2 gets updates every single month!

    2. Seriously? Fragmentation? Death of Android? Go sit in the corner and stay there. Even if manufacturers didn’t add in their overlays it would still be about 6 months for the various testing that has to take place to certify the OS to run on various hardware. The reason Android is stomping the competition is because we have different hardware configurations to fit different needs instead of the cookie cutter approach taken by other companies. Had he not spelled it out for people you’d have no clue what was involved to actually get Android from finished code, to AOSP, to your device!

      1. Being an android a-hole just goes to prove the point. People like you rant and insult everyone that point out androids problems instead of doing anything about it. Being an obnoxious troll is no help.

        1. Why is it being an asshole or having a rant when someone corrects an obviously silly chicken little statement about the sky is falling .. the sky is falling because there are steps to get new updates out. 

    3. I acknowledge that these are issues that Google needs to sort out with manufactures and carriers, but to call it “the death of Android” is a little much. We bitch and moan about updates because we’re more “advanced” users. We follow tech blogs and social accounts from Google, Samsung, HTC, Verizon, etc., and we are aware of everything that is on the horizon. The average consumer is not wrapped up in this. They go in to their carrier store, ask what’s the best phone they have, and go with that. I am an “advanced” user in my office. I have rooted, flashed ROMs, kernels, radios, what have you. Everyone else in my office with an Android phone has no idea what software they’re running, and don’t care. They acknowledge that any phone that is purchased by someone else months after they have purchased their own phone will be “better” somehow.

    4. This will NOT be the death of Android.  Your average consumer doesn’t know and doesn’t care about updates, just like your average iPhone user doesn’t know how to use 90% of the features on their phone.  You must remember, most consumers are not technology obsessed nerds like us.  They don’t know what ICS is, they don’t know about OTAs, they probably don’t even know what Android is even though their phone is running it. They don’t sit around all day and read articles about OTAs and fragmentation on tech blogs. They can’t get upset about something they don’t know and don’t care about. Now what they can get upset about is a broken, buggy phone, but that’s the OEM’s fault, not Android’s fault.

    5. Okay, I wouldn’t say “death of Android” and while fragmentation sucks, it only sucks for Android fanboys who follow blogs and keep up with everything Google’s working on. 

      Android is open software (to a point). Google releases the software and people can do whatever they want with it. That’s always been Android’s strength. Google can’t/wont tell manufacturers to do with their phones. 
      This isn’t Apple here..

    6. 2009 called, they want their iFan Android hater comment back.

      Over 52% of the smart phones sold world wide are Android, yep, it’s really killing the OS.

  10. I am an Android fan. I think it is much better than IOS but due to this fragmentation and no availability of an Android Nexus phone on AT&T I have switched back to IPhone. I am much happier with an up to date phone than an abandon one. Thanks guys for a great OS but the business model will fail over time. 

    1. I agree. After using Droids for 2 years on Verizon, I finally had to switch to iPhone to have a working phone. GB for the Droid X and X2 were so buggy the phones were unusable. I still have the Droid X2 but am glad I switched. The phone was abandoned by Motorola in a few months and will never see upgrades. The bootloader is locked to make matters even worse. So much for an open platform.

      I would rather have an iPhone that works, gets updates and is not abandoned in a few months.

      1. Really? iPhones get updates every few months. That’s news to me….

        1. October saw iOS 5.0. November 5.0.1 March 5.1

          Yup… every few months… Every iOS device released in the last 2 years (some almost 3 year old) gets an update to the LATEST version of the OS. It’s not like some Android phones that have waited close to a year to get updated to LAST YEAR’s version of the OS.

          1. How long between iOS 4.0 to iOS 5.0?

            Bug fixes are not OS updates like what this article is about.

        2. Well when you put out software as bad and glitchy as Apple does, it has to be every couple of months. 

      2. Motorola are well known for buggy software and abandoning phones (as well as encrypted bootloaders). Don’t buy Moto is the simple lesson I’ve learnt.

        HTC and Samsung are both good at updating their phones (I accept that your carriers do throw an extra spanner in the works in The States – not much you can do about that, except buy sim-free international phones off-contract, if you are in a position to do so).

        The iPhone is a great device but I just couldn’t even consider it now I’ve seen the other side. I wouldn’t be able to go back to a phone that won’t even let me download an mp3 from a music blog, or that forces me to use that absolute abortion named iTunes.

        1. I have a Mac and I still refuse to use iTunes for anything. Glad I’m not the only one that hates it =p

    2. doesn’t Apple abandon updates for phones after a year or two?
      The iPhone 3 (not 3GS) still gets updates?

      1. After two years people get new phones, so I don’t see why that would matter.

        1.  Sorry, but my phone, which is working just fine, thank you, is 7 years old.

          1. if its 7 yrs old, its not an android nor an iphone.. what the hell are you doing on phandroid ( a site based on modern day mobile os) ??? 

    3. You could have just gotten a GSM Galaxy Nexus and put your SIM card in. You still could sell the iphone and buy a GN and probably make money on the deal depending on which iphone you have. 

    4. Well this statement does not take into account that google still supports 2.3 thus your phone is up to date.
      Apple does not bring iOS to their phones faster they just keep it closed until it’s done. But does the sole knowledge of a new upcoming version make your current version outdated?
      This is a view most children would have. The old toy is crap as soon as the present box lies under the Christmas tree.

      1. This is exactly what I said in one of my videos. People feel like as soon as something better comes out, their device immediately turns into a lump of doodoo. 

    5. The unlocked Galaxy Nexus works great on AT&T. Or were you looking for a subsidized phone?

  11. Seems to me he was talking about 8 months before it shows up on new phones. As for folks talking about iphones cut the crap. Older iPhones aren’t always going to receive updates and sometimes run like crap when they do. And many people run out and buy the next hardware every year anyway.

  12. And I thought that ICS was there to speed up the update process…

  13. That’s just the way software updates are for a vast majority of customized devices. You either Root and ROM the phone to what you like or you wait for the  manufacture and provider to monkey with it till they feel happy. It’s not Google’s fault…

    1. Yep. I’ve been in the biz almost 30 years. Work takes time. Big deal.

      To the impatient: port it yourself or root and look for ROMs if you can’t wait.

      Apple does their work quietly behind the scenes. The Android community would (did) freak if (when) Google does that. See Honeycomb.

      1. Good point. Android fans love to know what’s coming around the bend and when Google shows us what they’ve been working on, these fans immediately turn on them, demanding the update on their phones at that moment.

        Apple doesn’t show off anything until right before they’re about to push out the update. Sure some will say, “Well Google should do the same thing.” But I disagree. I like knowing the future of Android way ahead of time. Even if my current device will never see the update. 

        Google has long been known for showing off technologies and the stuff they’ve been working on LONG before it ever hits market. It’s how they’ve always done things and I for one, love it. =)

        1. imagin hearing the words ice cream sandwich 2 days before it goes live. Thank god I’m not a barrista….

  14. I am an Android fan. 
    I think the big problem. This is really painful. But 
    8 months for an update? I don’t think that is right, but may be….

  15. Lol and people wonder why Apple still dominate the smartphone market, the simple reason is that 1 device with 2 older 1’s, all supported by regular updates at the same time means stability … Waitiung months on Android and even longer depending on the make of handset is stupid, the market is saturated with a whole host of shit Android powered devices, none of which look as good as the iPhone, none of which work as smooth as the iPhone and none EVER get updated efficiently.

    The biggest joke of all is that devices now have ICS yet manufacturers still keep releasing devices , new devices, running Gingerbread.

    1.  With every version of iPhone running the exact same cpu/gpu…of course it easier to update iOS devices.

      Thats probably why most if not all WP7 phones all run the same chip.

      The stability comes from every phone version running the exact same chip…any issues is across the board. Any fixes is across the board.

      I thought looking at update charts recently Apple users dont really update their phones on a regular basis. The update might be available but it doesnt get updated until they wanna do it.

      I dont think updates is the reason why the iPhone is liked so much.

    2. 24% market share is dominating?  They dominate the pocket book, by selling overpriced equipment.

  16. 8 months… enough to allow some operators to cripple down the system so that some features such as tethering are disabled and can only be unlocked by signing up to extra plans.

  17. the length of time is not that different for any platform but it looks worse for Android b/c its open source so you see it happen in the open where code is released months before a device is released using it as opposed to it being behind closed doors like on iOS & Windows Phone where you never know about it until the week a device is announced with the new version of software on it
    also the fact they have many fewer SOC’s to support so less time is spent on this unlike android where its much more complicated and as to run on a lot more price points starting-at entry level smart-phones all the way up to expensive superphones.

  18. The days of OEM and carrier mods are dwindling; it costs them time and money with little of value as the stock OS is better than ever.  Time is important here because if OEM A goes stock and beats OEM B by three months with a major software update, that’s three months where OEM A can advertise the newer OS version as a feature on the feature card at the carrier’s store — and that has real value — all for literally doing nothing.  Additionally, carriers can be expected to put pressure on OEM’s to supply devices sans custom UI overlays to simplify technician training and increasingly customer’s learning curve as Android becomes more ubiquitous.  Remember, the concept of UI overlays and mods goes way back to the nineties.  It is simply no longer relevant, a hindrance to customers, and a waste of resources for carriers and OEM’s.  Expect Motorola to be one of the first (under Google’s direction) to start providing a vanilla OS.  As soon as it becomes clear they are beating out the competition by advertising the newest OS version as a feature, competitors will follow suit.

    1. Actually, I believe the carriers are pushing the OEMs to add skins because they feel it bolsters sales. They don’t think they can sell 5 different vanilla devices. With skins, they can sell TouchWiz, Sense, and Blur devices. I remember reading some statement to that effect, but I don’t remember the source.

      I do agree about the issue of increased cost and customer frustration over delayed updates. I think this is motivating carriers and OEMs to have more minimal skins, which we’ve seen Moto and Sense already act on. But, I think the push for skins will still remain, or the Android market will dwindle.

      1. I think they could accomplish product differentiation with widgets and home screen replacements… and update thru the Marke………. Play Store.  And I also think they’re well on their way to this with how stripped down TouchWiz and Sense are on their newest devices.

        1. lol’d Htc does offer skins through the sense hub which I kinda dig, don’t really see any other oems offering that?

      2. I sell the htc phones without much effort just because of sense and it’s little tricks and quirks. But on the same hand take a look at sense and it’s evolution, it got bloated we bitched and they stripped it down and streamlined it! Then motoblur which was a god damn nightmare, we bitched and they listened! Lg on the other hand is just stupid I haven’t seen anyone excited for an lg phone in years, samsung has touchwiz…. which I have said before makes the phone look feel and operate like it was made for 12 year old girls…

        tl:dr they build the skins for us and sometimes they listen, wether or not I like the skins personally it makes me smile knowing that they listen to us instead of handing us the most technologically advanced thing you can hold in your hand and then dismiss all the complaints as user error
        tl:dr fuck ios.

  19.  I really do not see the problem as THE BIG DEAL everyone makes it out to be. Sure it would be nice to get updates across all phones right away but this is Android not iOS it is an apples to oranges comparison so stop. When you bought a PC with WindowXP did you expect Vista to be given to you immediately for free? Why not? Or when upgrading to Windows7? No you didn’t. It will not be the death of Android because the majority of Smartphone users don’t know or care about os updates and freak out when they occur wondering why their phone looks so different and their market got deleted(Play Store change). They buy an affordable(or free) Android and they like the apps and games they get and that’s it. 

    We care because well we are all reading blogs and android news. I enjoy rooting and flashing roms and hacks and theming things and when my phones get official updates the roms just get better. If getting a software update is that important go to iOS it is that simple.

  20. For everyone questioning the 8 month timeline, do yourselves a favor and read his google+ feed. It explains how the 8 month cycle refers to NEW devices to hit the shelves with the new OS. He specifically says this doesn’t apply to devices getting incremental updates OR to “flagship devices” (ie the Nexus line).


    1. I guess my problem with the timeline goes back to many new Gingerbread phones coming out less than 8 months after the Nexus S, and now new ICS phones also beating that schedule, example, HTC One.

      Although, he did say 8 months was an average and that could be +/- a few months. Still, looking like a little less to me.

  21. Been doing software development for over 16 years now and quite honestly I’m impressed that they can get it done in 8 months. You guys have no idea of what it takes to get a clean release build. Especially considering the number of parties involved.

    We’re impatient by nature and have a microwave mentality of wanting everything now. Yeah rom developers do it in shorter time but you also see why the majority of roms are so buggy (or at least buggier than official releases-food the most part).

    1. Not necessarily true.  It depends on the amount of features and bug fixes.   It’s not a complete rewrite.  You’re making enhancements to existing code.

      Having been in dev for quite some time, it’s safe to say your answer is limited by your knowledge, probably based on the scope and size of projects you may have worked on in the past.   

      1. A big difference between both your opinions depends on what kind of dev you are. A self proclaimed one who does stuff for themselves, or someone who works for a corporation and has to abide by their rules and do what they deem important, work with other corporations, ect.

        there’s a big difference. 

        Just playing devils advocate :p

        1. You touched on exactly what I mentioned in my first
          post.  ROM developers are independents
          who do all of their own development and testing (limited testing I might add).  This is why they are able to have
          such quick turnarounds.  It’s also why a lot of ROM’s have so many bugs and limited functionality.  It seems almost a given everytime I hear about a new ROM to see an additional sentence stating something like “everything
          works except the camera, gps and blah blah blah”.

          However things are much more complicated when it comes to working with multiple people across multiple corporations.  There are numerous factors, technical and
          non-technical that come into play.  Corporations do not have unlimited resources.  There are usually 2 to 3 various projects being worked on by a team of developers and
          each marketing manager spearheading that specific project always wants their project done first!  

          Reminds of a sign I saw hanging at my mechanics shop.  It said – “Don’t ask me to do a rush job on your car ahead of the rush job I’m already working on and the rush job asked for by the guy ahead of you.”  Well hire more developers I hear you say.  That will fix the problem.  No actually it will more than likely introduce more bugs and problems into the process (read Code Complete).  Plus developers cost money and that cost will only get passed on to you the customer!

          Not only that you have to account for the human factor
          also.  What is that you ask?  Oh well Johnny is working on the GPS bug which he estimates to take about 80 hours of work.  But Johnny has a dentist apt scheduled on
          Tuesday so he’ll be leaving early around 2:00.  Also he is scheduled to take a 1 week vacation the following week.  And oops seems like Johnny caught the bug flu that’s been going around and takes 2 sick days.

          And when Johnny is at work he also has to do stupid
          stuff like staff meetings, mandatory corporate training on harassment and maintaining company confidentiality.  He has to fill out his stupid self-evaluation form for his annual review.  And don’t forget the average 2 hours of time most of us spend lollygagging on the internet while at work (like writing comments on Phandroid – guilty as charged LOL).

          And that’s just Johnny. Your average project team probably has about 15 to 20 different members.  Now multiply that by 3 or 4 different companies who are all involved in bringing a product to market.  Not to mention scope creep and newly found bugs that may be showstoppers.  

          And believe me there are several other things that I’m sure I’m forgetting to mention.   But all it boils down to is that it takes time.  And self-absorbed fanboys who have no idea of how the real world works will never understand or appreciate all that goes into releasing a product.

      2. My experience is in exact scenarios as to what Jean-Baptiste describes i.e. working on projects where there are multiple vendors involved.  I’ve only done corporate apps for Fortune 500 companies.  I’ve never done anything close to what Jean-Baptiste does which I’m sure is much more complex than the projects I’ve worked on.  Which is why I originally stated that I’m impressed with the timeline of 8 months.  

        Please understand that the biggest area of complexity in all of this is not technical but more so with coordinating all of the work with the various parties involved and their associated resource bandwith and priorities.

    2. i want to get into software development.. whats some good steps to take to get to the level where im proficient in a language

      1. Go to school and sign up!  Seriously or if you want to go the self-taught route then sign up for some online training like Pluralsight.  Regardless of which route just know that you’re going to have invest a lot of time in becoming proficient.  You can learn a language in a semester but you won’t be a good developer.  That’s just going to take time.  But just decide what field of development you want to go into i.e. mobile, web, server, embedded systems, etc.  

        I would say follow the money.  Find the languages that are most in demand and learn those.  C#, Asp.Net MVC, HTML 5, JQuery, Java, Objective C (which sucks but is used to build iOS apps) – can’t go wrong with any of those.And then focus on that area.  Practice makes perfect so find projects to work on.  Volunteer to make a website for your landscaper or for your church.  Trust me there are plenty of opportunities out there to gain some experience.  But it’s going to be work.  Like Albert Einstein said,”Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.”

    3.  What about the issue that insufficient hardware can hinder the performance of ICS. The average device running ICS has at least 1GB of RAM and 1.2 GHz of juice.

  22. That’s the biggest load of BS I’ve heard. Custom roms are out within a month, and with almost no resources. The holdup is simply a lack of concern for the consu,er and a desire to sell more phones. Bendors know that the diehards will buy new phone with the software already installed rather than wait. It’s like the shows that build a whole houses in a week while normal people without the resources will take a year to get their new place. Vendors just don’t want to pit the resources necessary to the task. They don’t care because there is no profit for them.

  23. OK Does it mean 8 months from now or 8 months from when ICS first arrived?  If it’s the latter, then we could expect our devices (like my RAZR) to see ICS by the end of next quarter.  That’s a far reach, but would be great.  If I have to wait until Thanksgiving to get a smooth, happy, stable OS, then so be it.  

    I messed around with GB ROMS on my OG Droid, and all of them had some annoyances, and by the end I didn’t like how the phone ran at all.  I rooted my RAZR, solely to freeze the bloatware, I will not mess with any ROM’s.

    Just my $.02, although I doubt my opinion is worth that much.

  24. i work in the software industry. 8 months makes total sense to me. Still stings a little, but yeah it is what it is. 

  25. If companies would setup a predetermined team for updates and if said team built a build server and a script to run their build for initial processing when a new build drops. Then I’m sure most companies could do all that in half the time. At this point all companies involved with android should have that understanding.

  26. Jean-Baptiste actually updated his statement to clarify that “the 8-month rule of thumb applies to new devices, not to updates to existing devices that typically require a lot less time.”

    Check his post.

    1. Thanks, Rob. Updated this post accordingly. 

  27. Sorry to change the subject, but can anyone tell me what the calendar in the screen shot is?

    1. Stock TouchWIz Calendar app for Samsung devices. =)

      1. Ahh, ok. Thanks Chris. I’ve never had a device with TouchWiz which I guess is why I didn’t recognize it.

        Droid Eris -> Droid Incredible -> Droid X -> LTE Galaxy Nexus

        I don’t suppose there is anything like this calendar in the market, is there?

  28. I’m taking all interest I have in Official updates and smothering it with a pillow. 

  29. Doesn’t sound too far out there.  The alternative is take a more MS approach, dictate hardware requirements.  If they did that it would be easier to develop for, but would seriously limit innovative technology so it’s a trade off.  Personally, waiting a period of time isn’t the bad part, it’s having fairly new technology and being told you will never see the update that’s BS.

  30. If JBQ says 8 months, then 8 months it is. Never underestimate the beard. 

  31. This fact is why I use custom roms plain and simple

  32. The real issue is that Google keeps releasing the next OS version too quickly! :D But really, if you look at how often an OS gets made for Windows or Macs Google is cranking out Android OS updates like a freaking madman. We’ve just come to expect that by the time a software company gets around to their OS release it will work. Really though Google releases new versions probably on par with Micorsoft and Apple, they just release it before it gets ported to devices, MS and Apple do a lot of their Beta testing before any hardware hits the market.

  33. Manufacturers should rather make fewer handsets with higher build quality performance and check-ups before they’re released to the market rather than plethora of handsets which are hard to manage and ultimately down the status of the companies. I don’t know how much they profit from them and so but it’s just my opinion. Doing so will surely make it easy for the manufacturers to release the updates do the maintainance and so forth and tge customers happy and satisfied in the end.

  34. So if the carriers and oems stopped bloating the roms the whole process should take less time.  The average consumer doesn’t realise their phone is customised so would not miss it, whereas informed consumers like us generally don’t want the guff added by oems and networks so drop it.  If Vodafone, TMobile, Samsung, HTC etc have good customisations to sell then let them produce apps for the market.

  35. I would say follow the money.  Find the languages that are most in demand and learn those.  C#, Asp.Net MVC, HTML 5, JQuery, Java, Objective C (which sucks but is used to build iOS apps) – can’t go wrong with any of those.And then focus on that area.  Practice makes perfect so find projects to work on.  Volunteer to make a website for your landscaper or for your church.  Trust me there are plenty of opportunities out there to gain some experience.  But it’s going to be work.  Like Albert Einstein said,”Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.”

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