Huge Spec Leak: Wildfire 2, Desire 2, Desire HD2, and Galaxy S2


Aside from the fact that all of these phones have the number “2” in them, something amazing has happened – specs for the HTC Wildfire 2, HTC Desire 2, HTC Desire HD2, and the Samsung Galaxy S2 have all been leaked. Pocketnow is our benefactor today. Let’s dive in.

The Samsung Galaxy S2 will not have Samsung’s dual-core Orion chipset as we once hoped it would, but it does have Qualcomm’s 1.2GHz dual-core Snapdragon. Samsung likely went this route due to their chipset not being ready in time, but we thought they’d be going with NVIDIA earlier on.

It houses the same Adreno 205 GPU found in the Scorpion processor. As expected, it’ll have an 8 megapixel camera that can record HD video. It’ll have 16GB of internal storage and 512 MB of RAM to round out its performance specs. The display is said to be Super AMOLED and will be nearly 4.3 inches.

The Desire HD2 will have a qHD Super LCD display (the slide says it’ll be 3.3 inches, but I have a feeling that’s not quite accurate) and Qualcomm’s MSM8260 Snapdragon dual-core processor clocked at 1.2GHz with an Adreno 205 GPU. It, too, has an 8 megapixel camera with HD video recording – no surprise there – and will have 8GB of internal storage and 512 MB of RAM.

The Desire 2 is a bit less powerful with a 1GHz Qualcomm 8250 processor – this one isn’t dual-core and has the older Adreno 200 GPU. It also has a 3.7 inch qHD Super LCD display, an 8 megapixel camera with HD video recording, 8GB of internal storage, and 512 MB of RAM.

Finally, the Wildfire 2 is indeed real and will unsurprisingly be the slowest of the bunch with a 600MHz Qualcomm MSM7227 processor and an Adreno 200 GPU. It has a 3.2 inch TFT HVGA display, a 5 megapixel camera with no HD recording capabilities, only 384 MB of RAM, and little internal storage to work with.

Pocketnow has the full suite of slides if you want to know the rest.

Quentyn Kennemer
The "Google Phone" sounded too awesome to pass up, so I bought a G1. The rest is history. And yes, I know my name isn't Wilson.

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  1. Desire HD 2 with a 3.3 inch screen?

    Does no compute.

  2. Strange, Wikipedia says MSM8260 has an Adreno 220 ?

  3. @G8D It’s gotta be a typo

  4. At least my internal source of Sammy denies that.

  5. And they say Desire 2 will have the old 1GHz Qualcomm 8250 with Adreno 200.

    Come on, this is not the real deal, who believe Expansys ?

  6. Wait, how are these upgrades besides the dual core processors? Isn’t the hummingbird GPU faster than the adreno 205 already? Isn’t that the same processor in the desire 2 as the original? Dual core means nothing until android supports it. If these aren’t released with the new os, people will have to wait for carrier upgrades before there is even any difference at all. Correct me if I’m wrong.

  7. on paper the galaxy s2 is awesome. too bad it’s samsung…

  8. Great specs for the GS2! Daddy like!

  9. Please guys, it’s clear those are not the real specs, it’s obvious.

    Why would they pack a slower GPU in the SG2 ? Doesn’t make sense at all.

  10. gs2 snapdragon processor? thats weak I wanted orion

  11. gs2 with snaprdragon and 512mb ram…riiiiight

  12. I won’t be upgrading my Nexus One with this generation. These phones just aren’t impressive compared with their predecessors.

    I’m waiting for my tablet phone.

  13. No one of above is even close to beat Motorola Atrix

  14. To bad the Galaxy S2 having TouchWiz means instant fail, I wish it didn’t have to be that way.

  15. @wodin, Froyo supports dual-core. You can easily see that in the benchmakrs for the Optimus 2x and NVIDIA have also said so. Any app that is multi-threaded, and Froyo itself which is multi-threaded, will benefit from dual cores. That’s the benefit of using a Linux kernel. Check the Optimus 2x review on this site.

  16. That snapdragon has the Adreno 220, not the 205.

  17. these specs are so fake, the new sense version is 2.0 not 3.0

  18. FYI, the Qualcom MSM8260 (the one this references are belonging to the Galaxy S2) is a HPSA+ chipset (i.e., not for Verizon) and comes with the Adreno 220 not the shitty Adreno 205. Something’s fishy here.

  19. @Dags Thanks for the info. I thought there was going to be another gingerbread update (possibly) in march that added the dual core support. Obviously a Cortex 9 processor, even in single core, would perform better. I was obviously mixing it up, but that was my reasoning for the Optimus 2x being so much better. lol

  20. Another thing :

    The actual Desire HD has 768 MB RAM, why would the put only 512 in the Desire HD2 ?

  21. Quentyn’s knowledge of processors is poor considering his job. Just like in the Broadcom report a few articles down… Inform your self more Q

  22. That is garbage! The Galaxy S2 phones will not have that processor. Samsung ain’t stupid. The Hummingbird processor will smoke that dual core snapdragon. My rooted epic 4g clocks in at 1.3! Will we hear it straight from the horses mouth at the MWC coming up.

  23. Specs are totally fake and here’s why:

    MSM8X60 is set to launch with Adreno 220. The APQ8060 in the HP Touchpad is part of the same family and will use the same Adreno 220.

    Since the specsheet has values way off it doesn’t look that legit.

    Also having an Adreno 200 for the Desire 2 is impossible to display in QHD resolution.

    I would still go for the fact Samsung will use either Orion since it was due Q4 2010 or Tegra 2 because of the large amount ordered

  24. i really dont think sammy would release a phone with a processor from another company… We all know they dont mind keeping their customers waiting till they got everything just right and were all still standing around asking wtf?

  25. Also:

    Desire 2 specs are literally identical to the original Desire.

    What a fake

  26. I don’t believe this crap. All Korean medias are still saying it will have Orion processor…

  27. Samsung S2 listed as pre-order with pricing and hopefully correct specs.


  28. Lol this fake & obvious. If Samsung didn’t use Orion they would of went Tegra.

  29. @Vlad: cosigned

  30. Why can’t we have the HD Desire 2 or any other nice hTC phones like the Wildfire on our American carriers? These are going to be great looking devices

  31. Many warehouses with millions of single core chips, what do think they will just throw it out? Lol they just keep on putting it in future phones hoping suckers will buy them!

  32. Write I’m way unimpressed. Thanks HTC

  33. Orion clocking to 1Ghz will be in the GS2 and clocking to 1.2Ghz in the Tab2.

  34. People, these are defin fake (well maybe not the Wildfire one).

    MSM8x60 with Adreno 205? Qualcomm’s site says MSM8x60 has Adreno 220.

  35. Yeah same old nothing from samsung.. Htc rules this game and at MWC MONDAY we will see exactly what is up for the next 90days past feb 14…. Then it will be CTIA time in March…. GET READY FOR BIG THINGS FROM HTC…

  36. It’s FAKE! None of those specs make sense. Samsung with Qualcomm?? Dual core Snapdragon with Adreno 205?? Desire HD with a 3.3″ screen? C’mon now…The guy who faked them didn’t even have enough knowledge about these chips to fake them properly.

  37. These seem fake or place holders.
    The HD2 screen size maybe a typo. But the GPU and CPU do not correspond to know configurations made by Qualcomm. Also no front facing camera is listed and recent photos suggest that one exists

  38. The dual-core Snapdragon CPU’s running at 1.2 Ghz have the Adreno 220 GPU, not the 205. This story is BS.

  39. lol what a joke. ALL phone are epic fail…no HSPA+ lol

  40. Why would a Samsung flagship device use a Qualcomm instead of Orion? I’ll be next to call bluff.

  41. I was thinking the SGS2 having a Qualcomm chip was a little odd at first, but it does make a little sense. Samsung’s Hummingbird architecture doesn’t support 4G connections, and the Orion processors are probably a good 6 to 9 months from fruition.

  42. The GS2 announce doesn´t means it will be ready to sell the next day.
    This is from the Samsung announce:

    “Samsung’s new dual-core application processor, Orion, will be available to select customers in the fourth quarter of 2010 and is scheduled for mass production in the first half of 2011.”

    In April start the Q2 of the 2011…

    When Samsung announce something that is almost ready.

  43. The Samsung processor in the GS2 will be the Exynos 4210, the former Orion and will start production the next month.
    I am happy with Froyo, just give me the best hardware ever…!!!

  44. Come on man get it together 300 bucks says the galaxy s holds no snapdragon turning that rumor mill into facts these days huh? come on phandroid

  45. ” was thinking the SGS2 having a Qualcomm chip was a little odd at first, but it does make a little sense. Samsung’s Hummingbird architecture doesn’t support 4G connections, and the Orion processors are probably a good 6 to 9 months from fruition.”

    Um, what? How do you explain the Epic and upcoming Infuse and Galaxy S 4G?

  46. To bad samsung didn’t use a ORION SoC, i won’t buy the SGS2 (i’m verry happy with my SGS)… Why would they put that GPU in it? Samsung why o why? Now i will give LG a change i want MORE GPU power in my new phone, not equal/less!

  47. Who cares what processor the SGS2 uses. I’m waiting for the Orion packing phone anyway. And if that means waiting for another phone, so be it. It won’t be long anyway. Cmon Sammy bring out the ORION~

  48. Fake as Donald Trump’s hair !!!


  50. IF true HTC deisre 2 without a dual core, then sell my desire 1 & hello Moto. Very Very Silly if true

  51. Might not be far fetched, their WP7 phones use a Qualcomm chip..
    Either way, dual core Snapdragon or Orion, as long as its something different than a Tegra 2 so we can do some real comparisons.

  52. All these phones suck. There is nothing about them that makes me want to buy any of them. The Dual Core doesn’t mean shit to me. How about beefing up the RAM and making it a Google phone, then I’ll be interested.

  53. I see nothing in the GS2 spec list that makes me want to upgrade from my Fascinate. If I’m not mistaken, the GPU in my phone exceeds the capabilities of the Adreno chip, at least when it comes to gaming, and sorry, but there’s nothing that really takes advantage of the dual core processors right now, at least nothing that I run on my phone.

  54. Samfirmware just tweeted that the specs for the S2 are wrong.

  55. Samsung now official named Orion to Exynos application processor family and will begin mass production from March. So this rumor is flat out wrong. Also It doesn’t make sense for them to downgrade to inferior GPU from the one in Hummingbird.

  56. Sammy wants to be cheap! Lol.

  57. Since no one has mentioned it (lol) the wildfire 2 will be good i mean do you really need a 1.2GHZ processor in your phone, but i aint gonna lie that is awesome

  58. AC just posted different GS2 specs. 4.3″ SAMOLED+ screen, dual core Orion, NFC and what not..

  59. Desire HD 2 looks great. I hope price will be insiring for us.

  60. Does the Desire HD2 have a microSD card as well as its own internel 8Gb memory???

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