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As we close in on a possible February announcement for the Samsung Galaxy S5, more and more reports about its hardware and specs are bound to leak out. This time, a report out of Korean outlet DDaily suggests Samsung has started mass producing a 5.25-inch 2560 x 1440 display, likely for use in the next generation of the Galaxy S line.
The display is only a hair above the 5-inch panel found on the Galaxy S4. Samsung might be pulling the same thing they pulled with the Galaxy Note 3 — that is, increasing the display size without increasing the size of the overall phone. In any case, we’re glad they have decided to keep the device close to 5 inches than 6, wisely leaving room for the Galaxy Note 3 to shine in its own category.
The Galaxy S5 is rumored to be coming with a 64-bit version of Samsung’s quad-core octa-core processor, though it’s entirely possible we’ll see a Snapdragon 800 inside as well. We’re also expecting 3GB of RAM and likely a 13 megapixel camera sensor.
Of course, we’d prefer to wait until Samsung announces the details officially before we assume too much, so we’ll be doing just that. Circle back around February as we expect all of this will go down at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona.
Man this is going to hurt. I bet Verizon execs are rubbing their palms together like birdman after hearing this.
Nope, you still ain’t taking unlimited from me. FOH.
Huh? What does this article have to do w/ Verizon or unlimited data?
Yeah I had to go back and Reread the entire article just to see what he’s talking about.
He’s saying how Big Red makes customers bend over to upgrade or move to a new device, and he might lose his plan trying to get the S 5.
Ahhhhh…o.k. I really need to put down the egg nog b/c I’m still confused ;)
Hahahahaha yea I only had one glass, I can’t allow myself to get to messed up tonight
Come on Aluminum body with removable back ;)
No thanks – plastic is objectively better.
Metal dents, scratches, blocks signal, costs more, is more pretentious, and is harder to allow battery access.
Metal adds rigidity. My Samsung screen just cracked from an 18″ drop on a padded rug. It didn’t even land on the screen, the corner hit rug and it fell on the back side. The screen cracked because the phone flexed.
Not necessary, since there’s ALREADY an internal metal chassis that provides the rigidity. My note 3 is a solid brick for example.
The Note 2 has a thin metal chassis as well, just not enough. I checked out the Note 3, it’s better than the Note 2, but is still flimsy compared to other manufacturers phones.
“My Samsung” There’s your problem right there. Samsung devices have been embarrassingly prone to breaks since the s3.
Actually it’s the opposite. Flex allows to absorb shock. It would have been worse on a metal phone.
By objectively I suppose you mean subjectively. “Metal” phones bruise the same way plastic ones do when dropped. Plastic Samsung phones have a reputation of having the worse reception then other phones… Even those of metal construction. Price is exactly the same. Pretentious…. I don’t even have to argue against that. Your only point is removablebattery
Hd2, HTC g2, mytouch 4g. Removable batteries and metal can be done. My HTC One had good signal strength
the 2K screen won’t really be to noticeable of an upgrade, I think its just more of a marketing skeem. I think I’ll have to pass, happy with my s4 gpe at the moment, Im missing out on some of s features though, note 4 could be my next upgrade.
People keep saying you won’t be able to notice it. That’s so wrong. You do notice the difference easily. Your eyes won’t be able to see pixels for sure, but the quality side by side, you will be able to notice it. There is a confusion when people say you won’t be able to see pixels vs you won’t know the difference. People said the same thing when we went from 720 to 1080 and now people can tell the difference between the two. I sure can. 720 is just fine for a phone, but you can tell the difference in the quality of the display. The same will happen for these 2k displays. If you couldn’t tell the difference, then it would be no point in making them at all. Not even for a gimmick.
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I can’t tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 32″ screen. On a 70″ screen it is obvious though, things just look blurrier, and even 1080p feels a bit blurry. On a 5″ screen, 720p is plenty, 1080p is far beyond something the human eye will detect, and going past that just wastes battery and makes the phone lag more as the gpu strains to push more and more pixels. Our mobile gpu’s aren’t getting 2x as powerful every year, but we seem to have no problem increasing pixels by 50-100% every year. This is just not sustainable or logical. I’d be much happier seeing phones tap out at 1080p and calling it beyond retina.
Yep, stick with 720p on smaller phones and 1080p on 5″+ phones. Tablets will benefit from 2k though. There’s other aspect other than the number of pixels that can make the display quality better.
actually mobile graphics is increasing more than double, look at tegra 3 vs tegra 4 its about 6 times more powerful, and tegra 5 and 6 will continue this trend, tegra 5 is equal to an gtx 8800 with kepler cores, and tegra 6 will have Maxwell cores.
thats just nvidia, the competition is also as competitive, look at the A7 chip as well as new snapdragon 805 chip.
Got that right, T3, 12 GPU cores, T4, 72, T5, 200, 14nm.
If you can’t tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 32 inch screen, then you are either watching videos from a very bad source, or you don’t know what to look for. I can easily tell the difference when I switch my blu-ray player from 720p to 1080p on a 21 inch monitor, the blu-ray movies look really soft. And even recorded 1080p and 720p have noticeable diffences when played back on my Galaxy S4.
I think there is an audience out there for 2.5k displays on a 5.2 inch phone, but not everyone will notice. Same way as some people still don’t notice a difference between DVD and Blu-ray. That resolution is not for you, but other people are going to enjoy it and others will see the actual difference.
Retina is just an Apple marketing term, I rather have them stick to industry standards. The good news for you is that current 2k/1080p displays will be on the lower level phones and they will be even more affordable.
There is something wrong with your vision then
Being able to tell the difference between 720p and 1080p is function of both screen size and how far you are from the screen. Sitting 10 feet from a 32″ TV, you won’t be able to tell the difference, but sitting 2-3 feet away from a 23″ computer monitor the difference is huge.
For smartphones, you’re typically even closer than you are to a computer monitor.
If you cant see pixels now with 1080p you wont see pixels with 2k, therefore the whole thing is pointless. Display quality goes beyond resolution. Ask Apple
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/15
Apple has a really small screen and a high res for it’s size. So pixels don’t exist pretty much. They will have to raise their res if they decide to make their screen any bigger for their phones. And it’s a quality screen at that, because quality doesn’t come with big resolution. A lot of Sony phones are not that great at quality if you ask me unless you’re looking at it straight on.
It’s not only about being able to see the individual pixels or not, it’s about the quality of the content. Play a full HD video on a Moto X and an HTC One. Now you won’t see the individual pixels in either phones, but the picture quality on the HTC One will be far more detailed and sharper.
Seeing individual pixels isn’t everything. Play a DVD on a 1080p tv and that tv will do a great job in upconverting the 480i DVD so you won’t be able to see the individual pixels. It will take that DVD and upconvert it to 1080p and all the pixels will be used up. But regardless that you can’t see the individual pixels, the DVD will still look like crap.
Actually the 2k screen will be extremely noticeable.. Do u know what u r saying ..its a big different
I think extreme is a little to much, the 1080p jump from 720p is more noticeable then this will be, like Nathan said, 720p is just fine for a phone, the average user isn’t going to notice that much of a difference unless holding the 2 devices side by side.
If I hold my htc one x and htc one side by side, I still dont see any difference
If you don’t notice a difference, it’s mainly because of the video source you are watching or you may not be looking at the right things and they aren’t important to you. I’ve compared the Moto X and the HTC One and you can definitely see more detail on the the HTC One.
Best advice is not to compare it with a youtube video, but with a high quality Full HD video. Or simply record a 1080p video on your HTC One and then transfer it to the HTC One X and play them at the same time. It should be a pretty clear difference.
there will be a difference. the question is how significant will that difference be.
Yes there will be a difference, 15-20 fps while gaming and mediocre battery life, all for the sake of higher and higher numbers.
You do notice other things are built along side to handle these types of things. All of what you’re saying was said when 720 screens were coming and when 1080 screens were coming. They have managed. I’m pretty sure these OEMs put this thought in their future tech.
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Yay locked bootloader and no dev support!
Used to be a big deal to me until I got the S3, S4 and Note 3 phones. Haven’t needed to put a custom ROM on my phone since the Evo days. Android 4.0 and higher along with TouchWiz brings everything that I need. I do still need root to load up my Titanium backup though!
Goodbye battery life.
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Since they’ll be using a proprietary chip with no intention of releasing source, you can expect stable Roms by early 2016.
And a 4000 mAh to power that display.
Why can’t we settle 2014 for 1080p phone screens (up to 7″), 2K tablet screens and 4K tv screens? Is it really necessary a 2K 5″ screen? Só many other things could get improved on a smartphone. This resolution war has gotten so ahead of itself that’s annoying…
1080p is 2K (at least as far as 16×9 is concerned)
I don’t know why people get so confused on the resolution issue. If a user can focus extremely close (I can’t – I’m limited to around 11″), then there is no reason to have fewer pixels as you scale down the screen, you just move proportionally closer to the reduction in diagonal: 1/2 the diagonal, view at 1/2 the distance. The issue is all about pixels per degree. The typical 30 deg horizontal recommendation is 1920/30 = 64 pixels/degree and corresponds for a 1.6 * diagonal view distance (see Wikipedia). So a 5.25″ phone needs to be viewed at 8.4″. That is more than enough for me, but what if you can focus 1.33 times closer (6.3″) and are comfortable holding your phone that way? Then you want 2560 pixels horizontal instead of 1920. Some people want it. If there is a huge power penalty and the battery life can’t handle it, they will have made the wrong choice – but I doubt they are that stupid.
Don’t worry everybody, 550-600 ppi is probably the end for phones at least.
I meant 1920×1080 for phones, 2560 × 1440 for tablets and 3840 x 2160 for TV’s. That’s what I think is good for 2014 because, talking phones, there are other areas that Id like to see improvements instead of screen resolution (battery, GPU, software, cam, etc.).
That would be such a joke if they went even bigger for the S5. All those extra pixels will utterly waste performance and battery life. It proves Samsung has no F-ing clue what are doing when it comes to design and actually makes me appreciate Apple and Motorola more.
I’ll never buy a phone bigger than a 4.7″ screen.
That’s what people used to say about 4.3″ when they first came out… don’t worry you’ll learn… might take a while but you’ll get there.
Looking at my Optimus G pro, I think they can do one more bump such as this in screen resolution. No more after this though, it just wouldn’t be necessary. They need to now focus completely on the experience. This is especially true of Samsung. They have lag on some thing as powerful as the Note 3, that is pathetic.
amazing sales figures for a company that has no clue. Too bad HTC and Blackberry couldn’t have a clue as well. Then maybe they could sell something too.
That’s too bad, I’ll personally never buy anything under than 6″ again.
That’s 559 ppi. LOL
No, no, no, no, no. There will be no perceivable difference between this and 1080p (at this screen size), it will chew up cpu/gpu cycles, drain battery, drive price up, and use up all your (already limited by Samsung) internal storage due to apps actually being optimized for the display.
Do not want.
(and for the record I am a huge supporter of 1080p on phones, 2k on tablets, and 4k on screens 17″ and up – because that’s what the human eye can actually SEE)
i disagree. more pixels means a much more realistic representation. this is not rocket science.
More realistic than what? Than what the human eye can perceive? That seems kinda pointless.
there has been tons of research on this, just google it. the eye does perceive it. Not individual pixels but holistically. The more pixels, the harder it is for you tell between real life and screen image.
Yeah but in a 5″ screen the increase in “realism” will be minimal, and the use of more CPU, GPU, battery and data will be much more evident and problematic.
Internal storage limited by Samsung? Micro SD support?
Yeah SD cards have become pretty much useless except for media storage
I wouldn’t agree that they’re completely useless. They’re rather useful on mobile device (even Samsung devices) to keep media like you mentioned. Ain’t never hurt nobody yo. Bit of apps saved to the card doesn’t hurt either. Saves up more space inside the device’s internal storage. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
You can see the difference, at least I can. People say the same thing about 4K TVs. Bring over any other 65″ TV to my house and put it next to my Sony 4K. Even from 10 feet back, there is a difference. Closer and the difference is even more striking. That said my mother uses her 1080p tv for SD broadcasts, despite getting them in HD as well. The channel numbers are too high apparently lol.
Oh, you can most definitely see the difference on a TV or computer monitor. But as it stands now, the PPI of a 1080p TV/monitor is PITIFUL. 4K is really desperately needed there
14 nm will solve those issues, put on your $5 reading glasses.
I’m going to be the only one that has this opinion…
I think having a 1440p screen on a phone is completely stupid. It’s really not going to make an actual difference in the way the phone is used. **But** I’m actually glad Samsung is doing this.
Because I want these screens to get better and cheaper so that their inevitable purpose is for use in the Oculus Rift of the future (maybe the 2015-2016 version, since the 2014 version is almost certainly going to be 1080p). A 1440p Oculus rift would actually be a great use for these screens, but the only way they’re going to get mature for use in one (probably) is if they’re used in smartphones first.
I hate to be that guy, but I can’t believe people are complaining about the increase in screen resolution. I’m sure these are the same people that said “1080p is too high” and later complained about the Moto X screen having too low of a resolution. Be happy that a company is pushing the limits, even if you think it’s pointless. Otherwise, we’re sitting on the same phone specs for a year, which I’m sure you wouldn’t like either.
Go watch MKBHD’s rant about it.
exactly what i was thinking.. wahhhhh 1080p too high.
It’s not that resolution is bad but it’s side effects make experience poorer , like , high quality games will lag a good example for this is gta San Andreas lags on 1080p screen when you play on full resolution , than battery is affected , compability issues , ram issues , improvement is minimal.
The jump from the S3 to the S4 faced similar scenarios and look how well it turned out with the increased resolution. Same thing will happen here.
Yes 14nm will give us wonderful performance, hence Sammy spending 10 Bn on it.
Agreed.
I’m not saying people are complaining about the resolution being bad, but people are always looking for improvements in all aspects of hardware and the only way to improve is…well…continue improving the hardware. Of course that also means the software needs to be optimized to continue growth, but isn’t that what we have seen recently with the Moto X? And the thing is, if the improvement is minimal, then the amount of “side effects” should, in theory, also be minimal.
My issue with people complaining is that those exact same people will be complaining about the screen regardless if the improvement occurs or not. Improve the screen and people are going to say it’s not a big enough leap yet their batteries are awful. Keep them at 1080p and they will still complain about how their battery life is bad and they expected a lot better from a 1080p screen. The battery life will suffer regardless, so might as well push the limits just a tad more while improving everything else as well, including the software. I’m just saying, we’ve seen this before…and people don’t seem to hate 1080p screens now, do they?
That’s my opinion, at least.
It was a good video and he is right.
Also, higher-spec phones will push lower-spec phones down in price, there’s something to be grateful for.
Its…a phone…
Don’t worry about chris_johns, he doesn’t have any other lines.
Please, Samsung, sell a bunch of those screens (just 1 Million would be enough) at a fair price to Oculus VR.
Signed: a future Oculus Rift owner.
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Meh, not a huge fan of the screen… 1080p is more than enough until battery life is solved. I wish Oppo would come out with the N2 already and have specs to compete with Samsung. Is a 64 bit processor, decent GPU, soft radio ala Tegri 4i, WiFi ac, Bluetooth LE/4.x+, NFC, IR, no more than quad core or 4+1, 2-3gb of ram, Micro-USB 3.0 (USB 3.0) or better, a back touch pad (like the Oppo N1), wireless charging, and a 13+ MP camera (comparable to Sony or Oppo) with a depth sensor (ala Kinect) too much to ask for?
And since I’m pretty much dreaming at this point might as well include “next gen” battery tech. Tired of Li-Ion… time to push for some of these battery technologies I’ve been hearing about for the last 5 years but never see… with a more recent one being Li-O2. Transparent solar cells in the phone screen could also extend battery life. Oh, and of course Liquipel’s water proof caseless coating and the latest “self healing” for the display and backing.. these devices are expensive so durability should be important too.
Also better storage speed, closer to that of current SSDs. It doesn’t need to be 500+mbps, but the average 30-50mbps now is sad.. You don’t really hear much about new storage chips.
A new charger port would also be welcomed.. MicroUSB is slow… microUSB 3.0 should help that a lot but it a weird port and still isn’t as good as Thunderbolt. A Thunderbolt charging cable would be amazing… and would unlock the potential to connect straight to monitors, PCs, and so many more devices over one cable.
Battery life? The S4 was great for me, and my Note 3 is a tank. I maybe have to charge it every three days. That said my GF charges hers every night, but it’s never close to empty. I’m also on Wi-Fi a good amount of the time which helps drastically.
I want UD 4k, Li doped carbon nano tubes, because of their high internal surface area hold 6x the charge, 14 nm does 4x the calculations per mW as 28 nm. Screen lumens are the main draw on power though, maybe colour micro mechanical screens for you, good to hear someone talking about the technology though. WiFi ac 1GB/s, yay, : ).
5 gb bloatware comes with it
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And yet it still runs smooth even after 8 months.
haha… smooth wont even come close… it was laggy at first and then an update fixed some issues… you have no idea what smooth means… use Moto X or Nexus 5
How’s that shitty camera on the Moto X or Nexus 5 working out for you?
camera zoom FX.. at least thats fixable… laggy S4 with 3 Gb bloatware is not fixable
Are people really complaining about this 1440p display? If you want a phone with a low resolution display, buy an iPhone 5S which doesn’t even have 720p yet lol.
there is such a thing called the middle ground. I think people are complaining because I don’t think anyone is looking at their 1080p phone and going “damn these icons are too pixelated.” They’d prefer a little more on screen time than 1440p.
The HtC One will be better than the S4
really??the htc one will have better specs?what year are we in??
…if HTC still will exist!
At this pixels per inch, 7″ could have UD 4k, opening up the studio’s high resolution vaults, yes we need 64 bit and 14 nm, Snapdragon 800 would be bad, 32 bit, 28 nm, look it’ll be good on my Nexus 5, but this is the future we’re talking about, progress, more pixels, more GPU power per mW, more and faster RAM and flash.
Its…a phone…
No it’s a phablet, with half the pixels necessary for UD movies, 28 nm uses 4x the mW to get the job done as 14 nm chips. Samsung spent 10,000 million dollars on its 14 nm chip factory, Samsung goes 4k UD on phones, 2015. A Chinese manufacturer is making a 128 GB flash smartphone, Note 3 has 3GB of RAM. My Nexus 5 has a Snapdragon 800, 32 GB flash, 2GB of RAM, as does GS4, why would something from the future have the same specs. Why would anyone buy them, just for twice the pixels, with no performance leap, isn’t anyone interested in technology on these sites anymore.
1 month after S5 is announce the Samsung J is announced with beefier specs and what the S5 should have been.
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The possible battery drain from these displays
is too damn high
The G2 and several Motorola phones dont seem to have a problem.
I LOVE the battery in my Note3. With the screen as large as it is, I still get nearly 24hrs with about 4 hours of screen-on time with a full charge.
Overkill…….. Spec wars need to stop!
wayyyy overkill …1080 is more than enough in my htc one its basically flawless
isnt this like 800ppi ?????
Just pack in OIS, a tiny bezel, 4000 may battery, and take my money.
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