Samsung working to update phones facing US injunctions

In the wake of the monumental decision that found Samsung guilty of infringing on several Apple smartphone patents, the Korean maker of Android devices is currently working with carriers to update handsets facing sales bans. The hope is that changes to remove infringing software elements will circumvent the ruling of Judge Lucky Koh’s court and keep devices on the market.

Samsung has software workarounds ready to go awaiting the deployment of updates by US carrier partners. But the efforts could be all for naught, as a software fix will do little to skirt rulings on hardware design, of which most of the devices in question were found guilty. Samsung still looks to fight this one in court through the appeals process, which could take some time, but for the short term they will do everything they can to keep their hardware on the market.

[via WSJ]

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  • Brandon

    This is how you do it. Okay are you listening??? Run damn stock Andoird!!!!!!

    • Maximillion82

      You just beat me to the punch exactly what I was going to say :-)

    • ari_free

      There are things they could add to Android such as fonts and codecs. Maybe improve the dialer and PIM apps. But there’s no need to muck everything else up.

    • Mike

      Didn’t pinch to zoom get caught in all this too though?

    • Butters619

      Apple has the unified search patent, the parse phone number patent, and the slide to unlock patent…all of which stock Android “infringes” on

      • ari_free

        I could live without slide to unlock. Slide to open apps (such as in cyanogen) is a much better idea.

        • Butters619

          The patent may actually cover that as well. It has to do with dragging an image to a predetermined location. Hence why HTC has it’s lockscreen (dragging image to non predetermined location, or dragging application to the ring which doesn’t count as a predetermined location). And Samsung has there new lockscreen which is just dragging your finger up. I believe stock Android and Motorola are both in violation of the patent.

          • phor11

            “all of which stock Android ‘infringes’ on”
            I don’t think that’s accurate.

            1) Google has its own patent for slide to unlock that includes the ability to access at least one other command. Stock android has let you silence the phone by swiping right to left from the lockscreen since Gingerbread (maybe earlier). And now with Jellybean, the stock unlock screen is a wheel with multiple commands for which Google has yet another patent for. If those infringe on Apple’s patent as you say, then why did the US patent office grant Google their own patents?

            2) Apple’s ‘647 patent that covers the phone number parse was granted in 1999, which means the patent protection ends next year. But even though the patent is valid for another year, didn’t Apple already sue HTC using this patent and yet HTC was able to design around it fairly quickly? Are you certain that stock Android infringes on that patent?

            3) Google modified stock android to sidestep Apple’s unified search patent something like 6 months ago?

          • Butters619

            1) I am not 100% sure about the JB lock screen, but positive the ICS lock screen was still infringing. The USPO is a joke. (Actually read the patent and look at the JB lockscreen. Still infringes)

            2. Yes, HTC had already removed it before Apple pushed for a block. What HTC does now is have a default setting for parsed data. They cut out the option menu. I.E. you click on a phone number and it goes straight to the dialer. It works and it was a smart work around, but having a menu that allows you to choose phone, text, contacts, etc was much nicer.

            3. They removed unified search. I wouldn’t call that “side stepping”. The just cut it out.

          • phor11

            “but positive the ICS lock screen was still infringing.”
            Both Great Britain and the Netherlands have already invalidated Apple’s swipe to unlock patent due to prior art from the neonode N1.
            What makes you think it would be any different in the US?

          • Butters619

            The G-Nex was temporarily banned this summer right after Google I/O (when it still had ICS)

          • phor11

            Are you sure that had anything to do with swipe to unlock?
            It was only the HSPA+ version that got temp banned, the Sprint/Verizon phones weren’t affected. I’m pretty sure they all had the same lock screen…

            The temp ban was due to the universal search patent, which stock android doesn’t infringe on.

          • Butters619
          • ari_free

            Because Apple is from the US :/

          • ari_free
    • spicymeatball

      Samsung has potentially ruined the fun for the rest of us. They copied the iphone in ways that has emboldened Apple to go after all Android devices. They pushed it too far and Google told them so. Now it’s about getting things appealed before stock Android gets throttled back. Even if they went with stock android there are pinch to zoom, multi touch, round corners on rectangle. I’m very pissed at Samsung and wish that the the trade dress of the device could have been enough to fine the crap out of them. The design patents are a joke but copying the overall look isn’t. We never asked for an iPhone.

      • ari_free

        It bothers me that Samsung could’ve avoided most of this mess by simply taking Android for free and not doing anything else. Instead, they spent on redeveloping the whole thing, made it ugly and now they have to spend even more money to reverse it.

      • Crimsonshadow774

        Unfortunately, many idiots did.

    • phinn

      Agreed. I can’t say enough that I wouldn’t buy another non-Nexus Android phone.

  • Defenestratus

    Thats too bad… I didn’t want to get in trouble so I returned my Galaxy S2 back to the Apple store yesterday.

    I feel robbed.


    • ari_free

      I’m sure even they realized it was not an iPhone.

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  • Mattie33

    What is currently facing bans???

  • Luke Mattson

    Coco bean guy is absolutely right go with straight android

  • djjeffe

    Yep! running AOKP Jellybean on my soon to be banned GS2.

    • PC_Tool

      Yep. Same on my SGS1 Fascinate. Can’t believe that thing is still getting dev support.

  • Mike Mouse-Morales

    From a practical point running base android would fix this. But Samsung is a market leader because of their business choices to make a hardware design and UI similar to what’s already out there. Now that they lost the battle they’re probably gonna have to do a complete redesign of their UI. Lets hope they take a lot of the ugly out of it lol.

  • zadillo

    Any chance this might somehow result in stock ICS/Jellybean for my Droid Charge? I can’t even express how annoying it’s been to see my 1-year old phone abandoned and seemingly having no shot at anything newer than Gingerbread.

  • Jason Farrell

    It’s impossible to think that pinch-to-zoom && double-tap-to-zoom will be removed from any samsung devices, so don’t worry about that. Far more likely is that samsung appeals all the way to the supreme court and the sane-ish judges will agree that they’re bogus s/w patents and invalidate ’em. Less likely, but still possible, is that Samsung admits a lame defeat, and bends over to pay Apple licensing fees for the right to use the bogus patents.

  • Butters619

    The are all infringing on the black rectangle design patent (no joke)….that has to be the dumbest thing in the world

  • Dan Sabau

    next they’ll make samsung offer a free hammer to “straighten” those rounded edges..

    apple should have never won that lawsuit.

  • camelsnot

    Koh doesn’t care. She’ll ban Samsung products while wiping Apple unmentionables from her lips as their lawyers zip up.

  • The Mute

    I hate to be this guy… but I love htc’s options for unlocking, wether it is pulling the ring or dragging something into the ring but I have to wonder if they did this to circumvent apples shenanigans, in which case, Innovation did win out.