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Samsung In Hot Water After Leaking Rejected Evidence To The Press [Apple vs Samsung Trial]

Grab your popcorn. The Apple vs Samsung patent trial just kicked off the first day of testimonies and Samsung may already be off to a bad start. Remember those images we posted earlier today showing you guys Samsung’s early prototypes? Well, it looks like Samsung is in a bit of hot water after those images were rejected as evidence in court, yet Samsung still felt the need to get word out, sending off the images to all the major media outlets. Judge Lucy Koh was not amused and now, she’s demanding answers.

While the information has been public for awhile now, Lucy Koh denied Samsung use the images as evidence because Samsung produced them too late in the discovery process. Samsung “begged” the court to reconsider and show jurors the images of its F700 phone (the one that went into development reportedly before the iPhone, yet looked eerily similar). Samsung then got a little more creative, appealing to “the court of the popular vote,” sending off the rejected slides to sites like AllThingsD for them to put on display for the world to see. Samsung will be heard.

This obviously didn’t sit too well with Judge Koh who demanded Samsung’s lead attorney, John Quinn, give her a declaration stating with the names of everyone involved and more importantly, who authorized it. Watch yourself, Samsung. If found in contempt of court, John Quinn could be faced with fines, jail time or both.

[TheVerge]

 

 




  • lynyrd65

    Well I think judge Koh should be thrown off the bench for bribery.

    • Sean Daniel

      If she keeps up this favoring Apple she may end up in hot water herself. I think most of us are sick of seeing the BS rulings coming out of her courtroom.

  • drzfr3shboialex

    These judges are apple fanboys. They denied samsung this and the steve jobs quote. Any place where i can speak on this? If only the had twitter.

    • Brian S.

      Take to Google+!

  • Stephen

    Why are they upset with Sammy? If it was rejected then it no longer has relavence to the case rite? Already gotta bad feeling about this one sided trial…

  • JBrowne1012

    Theres a clear bias here…

  • JBrowne1012

    Please someone have someone other than Lucy Koh handle the case.

  • Sean Karpa

    Apple had an iPhone 4 looking prototype in 2005. Soooo. Yea

    • spicymeatball

      That’s irrelevant unless Samsung built it for them. Ah you were being sarcastic. I missed that.

    • Stefan K

      So great for Apple… But Samsung never saw those pictures and created the iphone look themselfs :) so not copied!

  • BigCiX

    As much as i don’t like the iphony you have to admit that every original Galaxy S phone except the Captivate looked just like a bigger version of the iPhone 3G.

    • bmg314

      I agree…and Ive heard this a few times…here’s the thing tho: let’s say sammy did copy the iPhone for the original galaxy s. Well, they aren’t now, are they?

      • tomn1ce

        That’s because samsung figure that a design from 2007 wasn’t going to do much for them in 2011 and forward…not to mention the tiny display on the iphone…

    • MrDSL

      Really? it was square and had a button?
      How did we ever make it past the flip phone days? I rememeber those..They all sure looked different didnt they? [/sarcasm]

      • WickedToby741

        It wouldn’t have been as bad if they hadn’t decided to rip off the icons from Apple. I still to this day don’t know why they thought it would be better to mimic the cartoony iPhone icons on a phone that already looked similar.

      • duong ngo

        Tell HTC, Sony, LG and Motorola that. They all the same form factor but they all look different.
        Why the hell would Samsung put a chrome finish on the edge. The would square thing is stupid and your dumbass fanboyism is even more stupid. Many other company has different design at the same time as the release of the Galaxy S.

  • GoAndroidForever

    If it wasn’t allow as evident, then why can they have the right to show off with other entities? This judge is clearly leaning toward Apple. It doesn’t matter what Samsung try to prove, at the end they cannot win because of this corrupted judge.

    BTW… why this site keeps delete my comment????????

  • Chad Cardwell

    I feel really sorry for those who work in the legal system. Sure, the money is good, but I’d rather hold on to my common sense and dignity.

  • Jason Crumbley

    Samsung needs to request a new judge.

  • HO ME

    Judge Koh essentially failed to control her temper as well as to give out Bias decision. This case will eventually go to the Circuit Court of Appeals for better Judgement

  • leaponover

    Absurd, they can leak whatever they want!! The court washed their hands of it then Samsung can do whatever it wants with it. The justice system in America has gone off the deepend big tme and now it thinks it can run your life outside of court. Unbelievable.

    • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

      no, they can’t. Well, I mean you could go kill someone. And Samsung can pay 6bil if they’re not careful.

  • izanee

    Apple = inferiority complex

  • jwthrush

    Judge Koh probably sits behind her bench with a MacBook and an iPhone. In her office you’ll find an iMac. Her home you’ll find Apple TV and kids in college all with MacBooks.

    • satsmine2k4

      None of which she paid for….:)

  • Carlos Gonzalez

    I think apple is just mad cuz we do it better. Very one sided. Not only that samsung makes apples chip so whats the discussion here?

  • socalrailroader

    Apple is deh suck!

  • spicymeatball

    This is worth going to jail. She’s in contempt and obviously working for Apple.

    • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

      close your eyes, and imagine you’re a lawyer. Its worth winning, nothing more.

  • jbo1018

    This does seem like a very good example if a fair trial. And Americans wonder why the world mocks our ridiculous legal system. oh and of course #impeachKoh2012

  • No_Nickname90

    I lyk the one they have that’s on the far ryt. Looks cool. LoL!! I lyk how the white design is going around the phone lyk that.

    And I think the reason that Samsung can get in trouble is because after the judge said the images were unacceptable, Samsung still showed the images to the jury. I don’t think putting them online is a bad thing, but they did show inadmissible evidence to the jury.

    Don’t get too cocky Samsung. You’re in Apple territory now.

    • Manbo

      L.I.K.E. R.I.G.H.T. Has some class and stop butchering the English language. Everyone makes spelling mistakes but that takes the cake on Stupid.

      You could write the most intelligent statement after and it wouldn’t matter after “lyk” and “ryt”.

      Stay classy.

      That being said, yes I agree, Samsung needs to watch their backs. It’s pretty obvious Koh is in Apples back pocket or is just too inept to provide a fair and unbiased trial.
      Just Apple submitting selected pictures of previous Samsung devices to “prove” their case and Samsung having their evidence that contradicts Apples seems a little fishy.

      • No_Nickname90

        LoL!! Alright. I’ll try to keep that in mind if I want to get a point across.

      • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

        his intentional assholeishness went over your head, Manbo.

  • Matt S

    The system is a complete joke. It’s ridiculous when evidence can’t be used for cases when it was collected wrong or too late or some other crap. Find video of the guy murdering the other guy, oh sorry, can’t use that because he didn’t have a warrant.. There obviously have to be rules in place to stop people from doing certain things to get evidence or what not, but to completely ignore clear evidence is just ignorant.

  • Luxferro

    i don’t see how the judge has any right to tell Samsung what they can do with THEIR OWN document.

    • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

      Five people explain it in this thread and I honestly don’t see how you don’t get it either.

      • Luxferro

        Maybe I didn’t read there comments cause I posted that 16 hours ago. I still stand by my statement though. They should be able to release anything they want of theirs publicly, especially since it was rejected from the case. It shouldn’t have any effect on the jury, since they shouldn’t be reading news sites about the trial anyway.

        The judge doesn’t want to look like an idiot. But too late, she does!

  • Doan

    It was rejected in court, so what does it matter if Samsung gives it out?

    • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

      evidentiary rules.

  • C-Law

    Judge koh seems beyond evil and corrupt from what I’ve read of her

  • http://completecomputerco.net Matt

    Its tainting the jury. Release the photos in a public way after being precluded in discovery would indirectly alter juror perceptions (regardless of sequestration, if apple found the ultimate decision from judge DOH, they could argue in appeals or get a mistrial)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamille-Browne/1184321457 Jamille Browne

      This is no more tainting the jury than apple is tainting the minds of their loyalists with the idea that apple invented everything. Samsung is just putting out the truth.

      • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

        You can put out the truth all you want, but if you don’t follow the procedure it wont mean much.
        How many folks on death row have evidence that they’re not guilty? It was precluded in discovery, which is why they’re there.

  • Otniel

    the way this is going, what she is stating, allowing and not allowing, appeal will be GUARANTEED. Clear bias, she will be reported to the bar as well.

  • http://completecomputerco.net Matt

    @Otneil unfortunately it would be better for Samsung to have followed the rules and let it be. To challenge the reasoning behind disallowing evidence after you very publicly (re)release them won’t help the case. The only jury pool left for future trial that would get past voidere are in the demographic of 80+ y/o nursing home residents. Hardly representative of either companies peers.

    • z0phi3l

      It will completely help them when they try to get a mistrial declared or when they appeal what seems like a win for Apple the way the “judge” is going about this

  • http://completecomputerco.net Matt

    I bet you apple is now cooking up as much pre dated evidence as they can for AR glasses. If they were late to present favorable evidence for them and it was admitted we’d all be screaming foul…I wonder what the burden of validating this evidence is. Samsung spent more time flipping off the legal system that should have been spent getting ready for discovery.

    Something very fishy about this to me.

    • z0phi3l

      Google has already applied for all the relevant patents BEFORE even hinting that the device was being tested, or at least I hope they are smart enough to do that knowing how Apple does its “business”

  • C.E. Breton

    Very good for Samsung, cause if this &??%#$%& judge Koh keep on this way that’ll be a very strong point for Samsung to appeal any verdict on those bases.

  • Matt Sokolinski

    Clearly just koh is standing by one side we all know what side that is

  • aiden9

    How has Samsung not fired their lawyers… out of a cannon… into the sun! Really though they seem to be the least competent fools that could have been hired. “Ahhh derp me not tell which tablet is which from here” and now late to present vital evidence? What the heck are they even doing??

    • WickedToby741

      It’s because Samsung spends their money on hiring engineers and designers instead of assembling an all-star legal team like Apple. Samsung doesn’t have the luxury to hire the best-of-the-best lawyers because they spend their money designing products.

  • meta96

    … a trial in san jose. apple wins, hands down.

  • IHATEHIPSTERSSS

    Samsung should be fined 6b for their stealing BS

    • Oliver Petruzel

      You hate Hipsters, yet you support Apple? Hell, one is almost perfectly synonymous with the other!

      Does… not… compute…

  • dsparil

    The Judge was being unfair anyways. This was a lost case to begin with because of her, and at least she’s now exposed.

  • ScottyByrd

    Last I heard we still have freedom of speech in this country. They didnt present it in court like the idiot judge denied. They presented it to the world where they have every right to.

    • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

      *facepalm*

  • Simpleankit

    This is totally ridiculous. So much bias! Even if submitted late, it does not take intelligence of Einstein to instantly recognize how these designs are relevant. It is a simple rectangle with home button not some complex technical stuff. Really Unbelievable.

  • IronHorse01

    This is what happens when you blatantly rip off someone else, Samsung didn’t care they still copied the the Og iPhone not caring about the consequences. Well here you go, mess with the bull and you get the horns!

    • Manbo

      Well isn’t that just the pot calling the kettle black.
      Last time I checked, Apple even admitted they took the design idea from Sony. Oh wait, I’m sorry, they “took inspiration” from Sony.

      All I know is, when all the Apple fan boys at my work are even saying that Apple is in the wrong and needs to just go back to innovating, you know something is wrong.

      Just sayin’.

  • SteveFuckingJobs

    I can’t believe how idiotic so called “judges”, can get.

    *Original statement edited as after quite a bit of meditation I’m now a bit saner.

  • http://twitter.com/MrYuzhai *Certified_geek™

    this koh b**** needs to get slapped the f*** up..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1339612527 Adrian Parks

    My gosh. These are just phones! Most, if not all, phones looked the same back in the day. I really dont understand apple. Just create something new and better instead of sitting back releasing the same phone with maybe three improvements and an “s” in the name. Leave Sammy alone! The first galaxy s came and went two years ago. Its no longer in production so I wish people would stop trying to use it as an excuse.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jamille-Browne/1184321457 Jamille Browne

      They can’t, Steve Jobs was the perfect thief. Without him they don’t know what to do.

  • bmg314

    Maybe this is calculated on Sammys part. Figuring they can’t get rid of Koh, they are counting on an appeal or mistrial.

    Btw, I do agree this Koh is ridiculously pro Apple. She denies this and throws out that. She wouldn’t even allow the Sony device that came out before the iphone that looked the same. I don’t blame Samsung for basically saying f it and throwing out to the public these *already public* images.

  • http://twitter.com/Defenestratus Defenestratus

    If its been rejected as evidence then how the hell can Koh demand that it be gagged?

    I don’t get it.

    • 1ofdakoolkidz

      She can, what everyone is forgetting is the jury. If evidence for a murder trial is seen as inadmissible then the lawyer just can send a picture of the plaintiff holding a knife to time magazine while the court proceeding is still going on.

      • http://profiles.google.com/gremlyn1 Colin Burton

        Pictures similar to this one have been floating around the internet for the past year, all Samsung did was draw a little more attention to it.

        • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

          that’s what the contempt of court charge would be for.

      • Luxferro

        In cases like that, the jury isn’t supposed to be watching the news or reading papers, or doing anything that could sway their stance of the case. They basically have a isolated life for the time of the trial.

        • 1ofdakoolkidz

          True, that is what’s supposed to happen however you can not intentially push info out to the public in hopes that you can sway opinion that may somehow reach a juror. I blame counsel for being late with discovery in the first place.

  • DanWazz

    Samsung needs better lawyers. If evidence like this is submitted too late, then they’re not doing their job.

  • CharlieTX

    So what do we have here – a judge who has already made up her mind? Wonder how much Apple stock she owns, and who gave it to her?

    • Rai Fox

      Look her up. She works, or at least worked (not sure on that part) for a legal firm that was hired as Apple’s consultant and helped them file all of the BS patents they’re trying to cash in on now. And no one sees any bias there?

  • 1ofdakoolkidz

    John Quinn should be punished, how in the hell can you be top counsel and produce common knowledge that late to discovery, come on man do your homework. How much are you getting paid, I would bet a substantial sum.

  • sn0pzer

    Please die, judge Lucy Koh.

  • Chico88

    Bad move from Samsung. Samsung should have submit their so-called design thinking process blueprint long long time ago the first time Apple sued them. If they did, the case wouldn’t drag this long. Now that they only release this info especially after Apple did, sure it will draw some suspicions.

  • MK2

    Oh hey, you have evidence that might prove your point? I’m not gonna let that get in the way of an Apple victory, I won’t allow it! What kinda BS is this?

    • http://twitter.com/mattmilsap Matt Milsap

      that BS is called the legal process.

  • Djcrossmax@live.com

    Your automobile has 4 wheels like every other auto in the world why aren’t auto makers suing each other? The technology market needs to standardize certain designs so that muthafuckerz like Apple don’t start nonsense like this. Patents sgould expire after a cettain period to allow free market innovation. This judge needs to be pulled from the trial as she is obviously in with the fan boys. Why would you not allow a defendant to bring evidence that would exonerate you? Sounds like Judge Kohl is in Apples Pocket from the get go. If Apple pays to win this case all Android Users Should Start a Class Action Lawsuit against Apple for depriving innovation.

  • Sondrek17

    Any evidence from samsung is not accepted, but when apple says they invented square shaped products it must be true. Lucy Koh is my idol! it shows that you don’t have to have a conciens or be smart to become a judge!

  • Garan Copas

    A honest question? Why does every android site omit the fact one of the reasons it wasn’t allowed was because it has already been invalidated thanks to apples purple concept iPhone?

  • Brian S.

    Go Samsung!

  • prohunter

    We should all go to the courthouse and protest lol

  • wushang681

    tinyurl.com/cyk9xz2

  • http://www.facebook.com/joshua.robertson.39 Joshua Robertson

    They need to see what her personal phone and computer preference is if found in possession of any apple products fine her royally and pull her from this case