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		<title>By: Floorguy</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/05/10/android-surpasses-the-iphone-in-the-united-states/#comment-342169</link>
		<dc:creator>Floorguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 15:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t matter what android does until they find a way to make a battery that last!</description>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 02:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Love how all of the Android fans are on this website talking about the iphone. I bet now since the new iphone came out, everyone here is now in denial about the iphone. Simply put, iPhone rules, Android people can suck it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Love how all of the Android fans are on this website talking about the iphone. I bet now since the new iphone came out, everyone here is now in denial about the iphone. Simply put, iPhone rules, Android people can suck it!</p>
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		<title>By: snupples</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/05/10/android-surpasses-the-iphone-in-the-united-states/#comment-121161</link>
		<dc:creator>snupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 17:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kirk Bad analogy since iPhone is old, dated technology.  This is more like Ferrari outselling the VW Beetle.  Sure, the Beetle is quaint and still desirable, but it&#039;s no Ferrari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kirk Bad analogy since iPhone is old, dated technology.  This is more like Ferrari outselling the VW Beetle.  Sure, the Beetle is quaint and still desirable, but it&rsquo;s no Ferrari.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOC</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/05/10/android-surpasses-the-iphone-in-the-united-states/#comment-119687</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 07:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My previous comment was removed.  Someone didn&#039;t like my pun on the word phail.  

It remains the case that &quot;most installed&quot; is a deceptive phrase that doesn&#039;t tell you what&#039;s going on.  It suggests that this study measures the install base.  Which is the phrase used in the sentence before.  Saying &quot;install base&quot; is another piece of deception.  Install base is the number of users.  NPD aren&#039;t measuring this so its crap reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My previous comment was removed.  Someone didn&rsquo;t like my pun on the word phail.  </p>
<p>It remains the case that &ldquo;most installed&rdquo; is a deceptive phrase that doesn&rsquo;t tell you what&rsquo;s going on.  It suggests that this study measures the install base.  Which is the phrase used in the sentence before.  Saying &ldquo;install base&rdquo; is another piece of deception.  Install base is the number of users.  NPD aren&rsquo;t measuring this so its crap reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: hazydave</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/05/10/android-surpasses-the-iphone-in-the-united-states/#comment-119348</link>
		<dc:creator>hazydave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 16:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should also mention, &quot;installed base&quot; is a hard one to predict with these devices. Apple like to say they&#039;ve sold 80-something-million iPhoneOS devices (iPhones, iPads, and iPods Touch), but how many are still in use? You probably can&#039;t count any iPhone much over two years old in the USA or three in Canada as likely to still be in use. Real installed base is going to be difficult to assess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should also mention, &ldquo;installed base&rdquo; is a hard one to predict with these devices. Apple like to say they&rsquo;ve sold 80-something-million iPhoneOS devices (iPhones, iPads, and iPods Touch), but how many are still in use? You probably can&rsquo;t count any iPhone much over two years old in the USA or three in Canada as likely to still be in use. Real installed base is going to be difficult to assess.</p>
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		<title>By: hazydave</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazydave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 16:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As most folks mentioned, this isn&#039;t installed base, it&#039;s quarterly sales. 

I think many people have predicted Android&#039;s eclipsing iPhone is only a matter of when, not if. I certainly did.. just not this early. 

My predictions: 2Q2010 will also see Android over iPhone. 3Q2010 will include the new iPhone, and iPhone sales will clobber Android sales, since most 2G and any remaining original 1G iPhone users will be upgrading. That is, assuming most upgrade to the new iPhone. And since upgrades are based on contracts expiring, this might even carry over to 4Q2010. 

I had also expected that Android&#039;s dominance will come internationally before the USA. The iPhone is stronger in the US than anywhere else. Android, on the other hand, is getting international support. For example, China Mobile is pushing Android hard, and seeking more Android phones to offer. China Mobile is a technical issue, since they use GSM for 2G but a proprietary technology for 3G... but they also have more customers than there are people in the USA (508 million customers). So Android on China Mobile is significant.  

I think the important thing to Android &quot;Phans&quot; like us... it&#039;s pretty clear that Android is making significant progress. It&#039;s past critical mass.. it&#039;s not going to fail, it&#039;s going to keep growing. That&#039;s really what should matter. 

I do believe it&#039;ll beat out the iPhone, in sales and in apps... in fact, Apple seems to be helping Android by being so bad to their developers, even disallowing any development language other than Apple&#039;s three choices (yup... even if you want to create your own native iPhoneOS language, Apple won&#039;t support apps from it in the iTunes store). I have personal reasons to want to see Apple knocked down a few notches, to enjoy schadenfreude at their expense when this happens. But it&#039;s not necessary to see Android success... maybe just a fringe benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As most folks mentioned, this isn&rsquo;t installed base, it&rsquo;s quarterly sales. </p>
<p>I think many people have predicted Android&rsquo;s eclipsing iPhone is only a matter of when, not if. I certainly did.. just not this early. </p>
<p>My predictions: 2Q2010 will also see Android over iPhone. 3Q2010 will include the new iPhone, and iPhone sales will clobber Android sales, since most 2G and any remaining original 1G iPhone users will be upgrading. That is, assuming most upgrade to the new iPhone. And since upgrades are based on contracts expiring, this might even carry over to 4Q2010. </p>
<p>I had also expected that Android&rsquo;s dominance will come internationally before the USA. The iPhone is stronger in the US than anywhere else. Android, on the other hand, is getting international support. For example, China Mobile is pushing Android hard, and seeking more Android phones to offer. China Mobile is a technical issue, since they use GSM for 2G but a proprietary technology for 3G&hellip; but they also have more customers than there are people in the USA (508 million customers). So Android on China Mobile is significant.  </p>
<p>I think the important thing to Android &ldquo;Phans&rdquo; like us&hellip; it&rsquo;s pretty clear that Android is making significant progress. It&rsquo;s past critical mass.. it&rsquo;s not going to fail, it&rsquo;s going to keep growing. That&rsquo;s really what should matter. </p>
<p>I do believe it&rsquo;ll beat out the iPhone, in sales and in apps&hellip; in fact, Apple seems to be helping Android by being so bad to their developers, even disallowing any development language other than Apple&rsquo;s three choices (yup&hellip; even if you want to create your own native iPhoneOS language, Apple won&rsquo;t support apps from it in the iTunes store). I have personal reasons to want to see Apple knocked down a few notches, to enjoy schadenfreude at their expense when this happens. But it&rsquo;s not necessary to see Android success&hellip; maybe just a fringe benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 11:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In other news... Ford outsold Bugatti in Q1 2010... that Veyron must me a POS compared to the new Focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In other news&hellip; Ford outsold Bugatti in Q1 2010&hellip; that Veyron must me a POS compared to the new Focus.</p>
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		<title>By: jf79</title>
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		<dc:creator>jf79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 02:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the iPhone was on all 4 carriers like the Android phones, it would be a wayyy different story.  Phones on multiple carriers will always outsell ones that are on just one.  Why are people surprised at this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the iPhone was on all 4 carriers like the Android phones, it would be a wayyy different story.  Phones on multiple carriers will always outsell ones that are on just one.  Why are people surprised at this?</p>
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		<title>By: The_Omega_Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Omega_Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 02:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is one quarters sales results people! 

Let&#039;s keep it in perspective!

I just want Android to be successful and actively supported by both the phone makers and software providers, at least for the time I am using it!

Android does not need to kill the iPhone OS or any other mobile OS system. IMO  (although, I would not shed much of a tear if it did!....j/k =) ) 

In this case business competition is good potentially healthy (for you and me and our economy)!  

This is not a winner takes all situation. There will always be players that leapfrog each other. 

The &quot;Best&quot; device is the one that does what you need it to do, when you need it to do it!  IMO

For me, right now, that is my Droooiid! =P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is one quarters sales results people! </p>
<p>Let&rsquo;s keep it in perspective!</p>
<p>I just want Android to be successful and actively supported by both the phone makers and software providers, at least for the time I am using it!</p>
<p>Android does not need to kill the iPhone OS or any other mobile OS system. IMO  (although, I would not shed much of a tear if it did!&hellip;.j/k =) ) </p>
<p>In this case business competition is good potentially healthy (for you and me and our economy)!  </p>
<p>This is not a winner takes all situation. There will always be players that leapfrog each other. </p>
<p>The &ldquo;Best&rdquo; device is the one that does what you need it to do, when you need it to do it!  IMO</p>
<p>For me, right now, that is my Droooiid! =P</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 19:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Jobs is probably going to be sulking about this and make another stupid statement in the press.

Wait till the HTC Evo comes out, then Android will reign supreme over blackberry and iphone...ha ha ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Jobs is probably going to be sulking about this and make another stupid statement in the press.</p>
<p>Wait till the HTC Evo comes out, then Android will reign supreme over blackberry and iphone&hellip;ha ha ha</p>
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		<title>By: Cybersedan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cybersedan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 19:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Hunter Pritchett

I tend to disagree, but we&#039;re all entitled to our opinions.  From my personal experience looking at their articles / reviews, I beg to differ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Hunter Pritchett</p>
<p>I tend to disagree, but we&rsquo;re all entitled to our opinions.  From my personal experience looking at their articles / reviews, I beg to differ.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 18:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackberry is practically giving away their phones from all the ads I see these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackberry is practically giving away their phones from all the ads I see these days.</p>
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		<title>By: snupples</title>
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		<dc:creator>snupples</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 18:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of gloating in this thread.  Now to play devil&#039;s advocate:

Considering that these numbers only represent Q1 sales and not total market share, it appears that Blackberry is increasing its lead over Android in spite of having no major releases since last year.  Android has had several...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of gloating in this thread.  Now to play devil&rsquo;s advocate:</p>
<p>Considering that these numbers only represent Q1 sales and not total market share, it appears that Blackberry is increasing its lead over Android in spite of having no major releases since last year.  Android has had several&hellip;</p>
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		<title>By: Isthmus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isthmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 18:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. Kenta&#039;s reply #21.

Don&#039;t be an idiot.  Try visiting the Android Market and look at the just in section.  every day, more and more high end high quality aps that use to be exclusively available for the Ipod are being ported over to Android.  Also every survey that&#039;s been done of app developers recently shows that most are looking to or actively working on porting their apps to Android.  So how about not making shit up and sticking to the facts.

Oh and we have porn to.  ;o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. Kenta&rsquo;s reply #21.</p>
<p>Don&rsquo;t be an idiot.  Try visiting the Android Market and look at the just in section.  every day, more and more high end high quality aps that use to be exclusively available for the Ipod are being ported over to Android.  Also every survey that&rsquo;s been done of app developers recently shows that most are looking to or actively working on porting their apps to Android.  So how about not making shit up and sticking to the facts.</p>
<p>Oh and we have porn to.  ;o)</p>
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		<title>By: Boxy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 17:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Brad, 
actually it is fair. We are looking at the OS, and how many phones using that OS were shipped/made etc. Compared to how many phones with the Iphone OS were shipped or whatever. It is not anyones fault that Apples mobile OS is only on one phone. In fact they have 3 phones out with their OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brad,<br />
actually it is fair. We are looking at the OS, and how many phones using that OS were shipped/made etc. Compared to how many phones with the Iphone OS were shipped or whatever. It is not anyones fault that Apples mobile OS is only on one phone. In fact they have 3 phones out with their OS.</p>
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