Comments on: Speed Test: Flash vs. HTML5 On The Nexus One

By: Ope

Ope — Wed, 16 Feb 2011 13:19:15 +0000

Html 5 is nice. Let’s wait ans see how early it will emerge.
For Flash, U need to realize it’s more than mere vedio/audio player. I is full-blown OOP platform for creating rich apps.
Don’t compare cat with lion!

By: stonee

stonee — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:07:44 +0000

I can’t understand “adobe vs html5″ that is discussing in the internet, here and there, especially, when jobs declared that the outstanding tablet, ipad, won’t support adobe. I have an impression of adobe that it can play any videos with different video format, in opposite, html5 supports h.246 (According browser publishers’ will) someone thought html5 should take 10 years before replacing adobe in the areas like games, desktop widgets, e-learning interactivities and many applications that require advanced animation API or techniques. As ifunia lists in their official website, html5 can’t replace adobe at once, because “74% of the web can’t be seen on the iPad” (that means you have to convert videos by 3rd-party video converter like ifunia and handbrake), ipad needs help, let alone html5! So, adobe is necessary for our digital life all the same.

By: Jaime

Jaime — Fri, 14 May 2010 20:36:21 +0000

Writing this answer from Ubunto 9.10, and using flash perfectly well on it… being a web developer myself I can see how open standards can become a sort of fanatic religion for many, I don’t know you but a well done flash website compared to a well done xhtml/css website when shown to a client is so unfare.

Most clients don’t give a damn about the technology we use, they just want results, design and functionality and flash is a clear MONEYMAKER in that area, besides, almost anybody can code or reuse a template in XHTML/CSS but not anybody can do a great job in flash (more money)

I remember at first when making one of my first ‘expensive’ websites, I spent almost a week doing and optimizing my XHTML and CSS, and just three hours making an animation in flash, at the end of the meeting everybody loved the animation, they made a round of applause for me and asked me more of that ($$$), the css and xhtml, well, they didn’t understand or care, they saw just a lot of colored text, so in my case html is something I do for a while or can outsource for real cheap and concentrate on adding the real value in interactivity and emakarketing, flash all the way, going to Cancun next week for making it a backbone in my company, easy money.

By: Tony

Tony — Wed, 05 May 2010 05:27:38 +0000

HTML 5 uses javascript, which isn’t even an Object Oriented Language. So a comparison is nothing short of a joke to anyone who really understands what is really being compared. It’s like comparing javascript to java.

Actionscript 3 supports almost all the features of a true Object Oriented language, including Garbage Collection. Off the top of my head some missing features would be Operator Overloading and Multiple Inheritance.

I’ve read that people think Flash is expensive to develop with. Developing with HTML 5 / Javascript is MORE expensive, why?

Because it’s a less advanced tool, with no Development environment and additionally every browser is slightly different and the developer has to deal with quirks–with flash the behavior is the same no matter the platform or browser.

Developing with flash is like using a backhoe to dig the foundation for your house, using Javascript is like using a shovel to do the same job. Of course the backhoe is more expensive then the shovel but what gets the job done more efficiently and cheaper?

Developing in Macromedia director would be less expensive then using javascript, it too would be a more advanced tool.

The only thing HTML 5 will be allowing is video and possibly some other forms of animation, nothing as advanced as fully 3D and interactive websites–save that for flash and java. IT IS A MARKUP LANGUAGE.

I could go on, but anyone with any knowledge of computer science will be able to sort the truth from the crap.

I’d even say it’s far more likely that Adobe makes their own browser with flash support built in then javascript evolving to become a better language then AS3 or Java…. such a thing is laughable and outside the scope of what javascript was ever meant to be.

By: dominic

dominic — Tue, 04 May 2010 13:57:03 +0000

my lord, year 2010 still fixing fps, shadow, rendering problems.
I think world’s programming trends or different languages are just moving in a circle again and again.

By: Corey

Corey — Mon, 03 May 2010 13:10:14 +0000

I think alot of hatred toward flash is caused by how it is abused and because it’s the only glass house to throw stones at for now. I will hold my opinions until I see how easy and intuitive HTML5 truly is. If the current viewing experience on my iPhone is any indicator.. It will not be good. The iPhone will say it can’t support the video format.. Then I click again and it opens just fine. Or it stops mid video and I have to close out and try again. Meanwhile there’s no problems with any video format on my PC.. So where is the problem? With flash or mac?

By: Aaron

Aaron — Sat, 01 May 2010 01:18:37 +0000

I definitely don’t doubt that Flash Player 10.1 is faster than HTML5, especially in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing — the Flash Player and ActionScript 3 is a much more sophisticated platform.

However, even if the HTML5 and AS3 implementations are roughly similar thus showing Flash Player is inherently faster at rending bouncing ball particles, it’ just a silly and impractical test. :)

By: msk

msk — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 01:24:45 +0000

Flash isnt os ? asfair, flex sdk is, wich makes flash os too.
HTML was suppost to be open format, and so, there was just one big mess in internet first years. Oh, sorry, the mess is still here. So, going 13 years back ? How many codecs are there right now, for video, audio etc. ? There were at least a few quiet years with flash somewhere around.

HTML5 will be just another headache for web-programmers, just like html/js/browsers were. Lets pray for a few minutes.

By: emre

emre — Tue, 13 Apr 2010 03:35:34 +0000

Well my flash hater friends. Let me tell you this because Ipad, IPhone doesn’t support flash doesn’t mean it is useless. Flash opened a new era on web development and Adobe is trying to improve their product to make it available to all browsers. My question is why don’t let users choose what kind of programs they want to install on their devices? Can you imagine a Mac without Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator for designers :) Youtube uses .flv format because flash video is light weight comparing to other formats. There are already plenty of browser issues exist why do we have to deal with one more.
HTML pages are great for government but not for a club or a restaurant. Flash can communicate with different technologies without a problem. Many people complain about flash not being open source but I don’t want people to steal my work and make couple of changes and use it for a different site. There are plenty of online support and user groups available. I think Flash and Flex and Air is the future of the web and Apple shouldn’t make life complicated for Flash developers.

By: dl

dl — Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:11:44 +0000

>Flash will do until HTML5 is finished :D
yeh *when* it will be *ready* :)
But than we have a optimized Flash Player which is again one step ahead.
And developing Flex apps is muuuuch more nice than struggeling with jQuery etc…

By: mayy

mayy — Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:25:28 +0000

Why should the question about html5 video destroy Flash?
Remember there’s no html5 video standard.
Of course video sites will soon have an html5 player for Safari/iPad. That’s easy, cause it plays the same h.264 videos as the Flash player. Loose a bit of money cause no ads, but hey.

All other users will continue seeing Flash video players.

Why should anyone completely switch to html5 video? That would mean encoding and storing all content as Ogg Theora too, giving up ad revenues, giving up DRM, and on top of that an inferior user experience, cause Flash performance is in fact much better except on Macs.
That would be a stupid business decision.

Cheers, May

ps: Just please stop repeating these myths and start thinking for yourself. The world is not just black and white. Didn’t you go to school?

Facts:

- the openscreenproject has nothing to do with open source, it’s marketing!

- Flash is not fully hardware accelerated
(nevertheless it performs better)

- Flash is not open source and yes that’s a problem

- Flash is not “heavy” nor “buggy”

- html5 does not “evolve”, but some browsers might improve their rendering engines

By: Julien Iafrancesco

Julien Iafrancesco — Sun, 04 Apr 2010 01:44:05 +0000

opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/osmf/

and

http://www.openscreenproject.org/

By: KeithK

KeithK — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:45:27 +0000

I use Zahdoo.com for my managing my activities and events online. The site is 100% Flash. with decent internet connection the site loads as fast as many non-flash sites I have used in the past. The way flash was used in the design of the site offers rich functionality and features and enhances usr productivity. I feel Flash is going to change UI esp. on mobiles and touch screen computing.

By: Abrown

Abrown — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:26:48 +0000

Ha! take that Stevo! Yeah I’ve had a love hate relationship with flash but one thing that is great about it is that it is a wide spread platform that most web sites use and since I have flash I can therefore watch the content. Flash does do HD too. HTML 5 hasn’t convinced me to go for it because it isn’t a standard. There are different versions of what people think HTML 5 should be. Some advocate different interests, so its not like ditching flash will suddenly bring mass unity and better performance. Yeah flash hasn’t always been great, but at least I can use it and generally get a good viewing experience as long as my connection is good. Good article!

By: Matt

Matt — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 14:39:53 +0000

I don’t care what is used I just want to play my damn facebook games on my phone please!!!!