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	<title>Comments on: Droid Doesn&#8217;t &#8211; Android 2.1 Delayed A-G-A-I-N</title>
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		<title>By: HWag</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-95615</link>
		<dc:creator>HWag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 05:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a serious letdown. The Droid was supposed to be the big, open challenger to iPhone. And what do we get? Delays, lies, and coy responses to direct questions from hundreds of thousands of angry consumers.

And the biggest disappointment of all? NO FLASH PLAYER IS BEING RELEASED WITH THE UPDATE NOW. They have yanked Flash 10.1 from the update. And please don&#039;t start with the stupid debate about Flash being &quot;lame&quot; or &quot;useless&quot; or a &quot;battery hog&quot;. The fact is, FLASH EXISTS ON THE WEB IN A HUGE WAY, and we have no way to access those websites and Flash features on those websites through our Android phones.

And the biggest slap to the face in regards to no Flash player? Those damned YouTube videos that were released by Adobe devs showing an Android phone with Flash Player running on it. They dangle the carrot, they take the carrot away, and act like it was never there. 

That blows whole herds of yaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a serious letdown. The Droid was supposed to be the big, open challenger to iPhone. And what do we get? Delays, lies, and coy responses to direct questions from hundreds of thousands of angry consumers.</p>
<p>And the biggest disappointment of all? NO FLASH PLAYER IS BEING RELEASED WITH THE UPDATE NOW. They have yanked Flash 10.1 from the update. And please don&rsquo;t start with the stupid debate about Flash being &ldquo;lame&rdquo; or &ldquo;useless&rdquo; or a &ldquo;battery hog&rdquo;. The fact is, FLASH EXISTS ON THE WEB IN A HUGE WAY, and we have no way to access those websites and Flash features on those websites through our Android phones.</p>
<p>And the biggest slap to the face in regards to no Flash player? Those damned YouTube videos that were released by Adobe devs showing an Android phone with Flash Player running on it. They dangle the carrot, they take the carrot away, and act like it was never there. </p>
<p>That blows whole herds of yaks.</p>
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		<title>By: dperk</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-93728</link>
		<dc:creator>dperk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been a few days since this last promise of the 2.1 update for the Droid... and I&#039;m still seething... If they have the software, how hard can it be to transfer over to one of their most popular devices?!  Ugh... Maybe I&#039;ll just pick up an HTC Incredible in a couple of weeks... as long as that comes with 2.1 that is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&rsquo;s been a few days since this last promise of the 2.1 update for the Droid&hellip; and I&rsquo;m still seething&hellip; If they have the software, how hard can it be to transfer over to one of their most popular devices?!  Ugh&hellip; Maybe I&rsquo;ll just pick up an HTC Incredible in a couple of weeks&hellip; as long as that comes with 2.1 that is&hellip;</p>
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		<title>By: Mensah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mensah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah....maybe MOTO does not have the time to update the droid cause they have there attention on all there new phones. I don&#039;t think this is a Verizon issue...as many so quickly jugg it to be</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah&hellip;.maybe MOTO does not have the time to update the droid cause they have there attention on all there new phones. I don&rsquo;t think this is a Verizon issue&hellip;as many so quickly jugg it to be</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-93061</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So to summarize us iPhone owners who want Flash and live in areas where AT&amp;Ts network is bad don&#039;t have a magic bullet in buying a Droid from Verizon (which has the best network in my area). One would think Verizon would have an interest here in enticing me into this market. Of course they&#039;re the guys that said no to the iPhone in the first place so I guess I shouldn&#039;t expect too much of them.

Why am I sick of the iPhone? No Flash and it appears there never will be Flash on the iPhone. No foward and back Bluetooth controls. Cobbled in and rather primitive copy and paste (my PC with Windows 3.11 and my Mac Plus copy and pasted better than the iPhone) odd Apple can&#039;t fully implement a feature on computers 20 years ago. I can&#039;t copy an appointment and paste it into another timeslot (something my old Palms and Pocket PCs could do).

And my favorite iPhone features, soft reset daily so all functions will work right expecially Bluetooth. And living in an Orwellian state that requires hands free cell phone use this is now a mandatory feature that HAS to work right.

When it get&#039;s really bad hear the Apple store tech tell me to reset to factory (reload the operating system to original). Last OSs I had to do that on, why Windows 9x. I laugh everytime I see one of those Apple commercials picking on Microsoft. Sorry Apple you are no better! I was nice to the Apple tech the last time he said that I made no comments about Win9X but oh did I want to! Nothing quite like moving all my apps around for the next two weeks to get them back to where I know where they are.

Oh and how many times I was told my Win 9X machines had too many apps. Guess what I&#039;m being told is why my iPhone doesn&#039;t work right!!!! Now I need a truckfull of apples and a cider press to get my frustrations out. What&#039;s the point of having 10,000 apps on the Apple store if I can&#039;t install more than aproximately 80?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So to summarize us iPhone owners who want Flash and live in areas where AT&amp;Ts network is bad don&rsquo;t have a magic bullet in buying a Droid from Verizon (which has the best network in my area). One would think Verizon would have an interest here in enticing me into this market. Of course they&rsquo;re the guys that said no to the iPhone in the first place so I guess I shouldn&rsquo;t expect too much of them.</p>
<p>Why am I sick of the iPhone? No Flash and it appears there never will be Flash on the iPhone. No foward and back Bluetooth controls. Cobbled in and rather primitive copy and paste (my PC with Windows 3.11 and my Mac Plus copy and pasted better than the iPhone) odd Apple can&rsquo;t fully implement a feature on computers 20 years ago. I can&rsquo;t copy an appointment and paste it into another timeslot (something my old Palms and Pocket PCs could do).</p>
<p>And my favorite iPhone features, soft reset daily so all functions will work right expecially Bluetooth. And living in an Orwellian state that requires hands free cell phone use this is now a mandatory feature that HAS to work right.</p>
<p>When it get&rsquo;s really bad hear the Apple store tech tell me to reset to factory (reload the operating system to original). Last OSs I had to do that on, why Windows 9x. I laugh everytime I see one of those Apple commercials picking on Microsoft. Sorry Apple you are no better! I was nice to the Apple tech the last time he said that I made no comments about Win9X but oh did I want to! Nothing quite like moving all my apps around for the next two weeks to get them back to where I know where they are.</p>
<p>Oh and how many times I was told my Win 9X machines had too many apps. Guess what I&rsquo;m being told is why my iPhone doesn&rsquo;t work right!!!! Now I need a truckfull of apples and a cider press to get my frustrations out. What&rsquo;s the point of having 10,000 apps on the Apple store if I can&rsquo;t install more than aproximately 80?</p>
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		<title>By: Row</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-93009</link>
		<dc:creator>Row</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chill people......it will get here and be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chill people&hellip;&hellip;it will get here and be great.</p>
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		<title>By: Channan</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-93002</link>
		<dc:creator>Channan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MKE: The Droid is still the best Android phone on Verizon. Even if the Nexus One came out 2 months after the Droid, it&#039;s 4 months later now and you still can&#039;t get it.

And Apple sold 1 million original iPhones in 74 days. The Droid barely beat that record, and the iPhone still sold that many even though it was unsubsidized. Both the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS sold over a million devices in the first weekend alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MKE: The Droid is still the best Android phone on Verizon. Even if the Nexus One came out 2 months after the Droid, it&rsquo;s 4 months later now and you still can&rsquo;t get it.</p>
<p>And Apple sold 1 million original iPhones in 74 days. The Droid barely beat that record, and the iPhone still sold that many even though it was unsubsidized. Both the iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS sold over a million devices in the first weekend alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92770</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rootedsam, how&#039;s the battery life?  How hot does the CPU run?  It it still within manufacturing spec?  What are the RF characteristics?  Are they still within network spec?  

When you get a custom ROM, it doesn&#039;t undergo the kind of testing that the phone manufacturer and network put it under.  For one, the custom creators likely don&#039;t know what they would have to test, and wouldn&#039;t care if they did.  It seems to work, release it.  They have no liability if your phone burns itself out and (because you rooted it) isn&#039;t covered by the warranty.  

People say that they&#039;re willing to take the risk, but as soon as the phone stops working, who will they blame?  Themselves for running unapproved and untested software?  No.  It&#039;s because it&#039;s a crappy phone.  Bad manufacturer.  Bad manufacturer!

Customs don&#039;t have to worry about reputation the same way that a company like Verizon, HTC or Motorola does.  It&#039;s little wonder they take their time testing and retesting before they release anything.  They&#039;re dammed if they do and dammed if they don&#039;t, so they might as well follow the path that causes them the lowest liability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rootedsam, how&rsquo;s the battery life?  How hot does the CPU run?  It it still within manufacturing spec?  What are the RF characteristics?  Are they still within network spec?  </p>
<p>When you get a custom ROM, it doesn&rsquo;t undergo the kind of testing that the phone manufacturer and network put it under.  For one, the custom creators likely don&rsquo;t know what they would have to test, and wouldn&rsquo;t care if they did.  It seems to work, release it.  They have no liability if your phone burns itself out and (because you rooted it) isn&rsquo;t covered by the warranty.  </p>
<p>People say that they&rsquo;re willing to take the risk, but as soon as the phone stops working, who will they blame?  Themselves for running unapproved and untested software?  No.  It&rsquo;s because it&rsquo;s a crappy phone.  Bad manufacturer.  Bad manufacturer!</p>
<p>Customs don&rsquo;t have to worry about reputation the same way that a company like Verizon, HTC or Motorola does.  It&rsquo;s little wonder they take their time testing and retesting before they release anything.  They&rsquo;re dammed if they do and dammed if they don&rsquo;t, so they might as well follow the path that causes them the lowest liability.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92736</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Adobe gave them the Flash player to add to the update?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Adobe gave them the Flash player to add to the update?</p>
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		<title>By: Taz</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92612</link>
		<dc:creator>Taz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Folks, For an old man of 50 with an VZW Eris........ Can you tell me where I mite get 2.0 ? I am still on the original OS of 1.5 I love the phone as of now but gee, would really like to see what ya&#039;ll are talking abt in this 2.0 then 2.1 whenever it gets here !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Folks, For an old man of 50 with an VZW Eris&hellip;&hellip;.. Can you tell me where I mite get 2.0 ? I am still on the original OS of 1.5 I love the phone as of now but gee, would really like to see what ya&rsquo;ll are talking abt in this 2.0 then 2.1 whenever it gets here !!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92598</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waaaaahhhhhh!!! My phone can&#039;t do anything without 2.1!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waaaaahhhhhh!!! My phone can&rsquo;t do anything without 2.1!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SG</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92567</link>
		<dc:creator>SG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@infojock: Java, no matter how u look at, dominates the world - the only thing that Sun Microsystems has been able to implement with success. I&#039;ve met the father of Java, James Gosling, and even have a autographed poster. Don&#039;t blame the language, blame the Devs and there ability to implement the shyt. Java&#039;s not going away any time soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@infojock: Java, no matter how u look at, dominates the world &ndash; the only thing that Sun Microsystems has been able to implement with success. I&rsquo;ve met the father of Java, James Gosling, and even have a autographed poster. Don&rsquo;t blame the language, blame the Devs and there ability to implement the shyt. Java&rsquo;s not going away any time soon</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92561</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The developer community is always one step ahead of the big companies it seems. I&#039;ve been running 2.1 with no issues or force closes for some time. Got sick of Motorola and Verizon sitting on their hands. I wonder what Google thinks of the Droids overall &quot;Google Experience&quot;?

I&#039;m not sweating it too much. I&#039;m stable and good to go. No need waiting for Motorola or Verizon. If the OTA update is decent, perhaps I&#039;ll see about going back to stock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The developer community is always one step ahead of the big companies it seems. I&rsquo;ve been running 2.1 with no issues or force closes for some time. Got sick of Motorola and Verizon sitting on their hands. I wonder what Google thinks of the Droids overall &ldquo;Google Experience&rdquo;?</p>
<p>I&rsquo;m not sweating it too much. I&rsquo;m stable and good to go. No need waiting for Motorola or Verizon. If the OTA update is decent, perhaps I&rsquo;ll see about going back to stock.</p>
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		<title>By: MKE</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92540</link>
		<dc:creator>MKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what upsets me the most is the fact that when we all bought the Droid, we were getting the latest and greatest android version to date. Then google releases the Flop1, I mean Nexus1, with 2.1? What the hell is that about? It was only like 2 or 3 months later, which means that the OS was probably ready when the Droid was released. It should have been on the Droid from the beginning. After looking at the sales figures, I bet they wish it had been on the Droid, being that it broke Idon&#039;t&#039;s, I mean Iphone&#039;s debut sales numbers. Iphone, 1 million units in 74 days. Droid, 1.5 million in 74 days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what upsets me the most is the fact that when we all bought the Droid, we were getting the latest and greatest android version to date. Then google releases the Flop1, I mean Nexus1, with 2.1? What the hell is that about? It was only like 2 or 3 months later, which means that the OS was probably ready when the Droid was released. It should have been on the Droid from the beginning. After looking at the sales figures, I bet they wish it had been on the Droid, being that it broke Idon&rsquo;t's, I mean Iphone&rsquo;s debut sales numbers. Iphone, 1 million units in 74 days. Droid, 1.5 million in 74 days.</p>
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		<title>By: MKE</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92538</link>
		<dc:creator>MKE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DANCE, PUPPETS, DANCE!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DANCE, PUPPETS, DANCE!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Ballmer</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2010/03/18/droid-doesnt-android-2-1-delayed-a-g-a-i-n/#comment-92533</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Ballmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I base my buying of products on the experience I have with them , and guess what this Moto/Verizon stunt just cost Moto , will not be buying a Moto product ever again .
I suspect Moto will be gone in a couple of years and this will be one of the reasons for that beginning to happen .
We have the power to topple giants , we are the consumers who buy products , we can make you or break you !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I base my buying of products on the experience I have with them , and guess what this Moto/Verizon stunt just cost Moto , will not be buying a Moto product ever again .<br />
I suspect Moto will be gone in a couple of years and this will be one of the reasons for that beginning to happen .<br />
We have the power to topple giants , we are the consumers who buy products , we can make you or break you !</p>
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