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	<title>Comments on: Hey Europe: You Want Google Navigation But Can&#8217;t Have It</title>
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		<title>By: basler</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-76614</link>
		<dc:creator>basler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well  for a few bucks there is  copilot 8 wich is a Very Good Navigation vor android....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well  for a few bucks there is  copilot 8 wich is a Very Good Navigation vor android&hellip;.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-68516</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google need to create a open source user-generated map database.
They could find some skilled map creators out there who are willing to work for free.
Each would cover their own city/suburb.

Even I would be willing to enter map data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google need to create a open source user-generated map database.<br />
They could find some skilled map creators out there who are willing to work for free.<br />
Each would cover their own city/suburb.</p>
<p>Even I would be willing to enter map data.</p>
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		<title>By: 3dBloke</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-68080</link>
		<dc:creator>3dBloke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Furret agree with you. Google&#039;s efforts to promote Android in Europe are pitiful.  All the talk of how great turn-by-turn is, and we see demos of Motorola Droids in the US running the software... Not surprisingly, anyone in Europe with an interest in Android is going to expect the same.  BIG let-down if Google doesn&#039;t deliver this in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Furret agree with you. Google&rsquo;s efforts to promote Android in Europe are pitiful.  All the talk of how great turn-by-turn is, and we see demos of Motorola Droids in the US running the software&hellip; Not surprisingly, anyone in Europe with an interest in Android is going to expect the same.  BIG let-down if Google doesn&rsquo;t deliver this in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Furret</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-67609</link>
		<dc:creator>Furret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they`re seriously wondering, why is Android in Europe less popular than in US?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they`re seriously wondering, why is Android in Europe less popular than in US?</p>
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		<title>By: moo</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-67567</link>
		<dc:creator>moo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the people asking about licensing, the reason Google can do turn-by-turn on GMaps in the US is because they are using their own map data.

Up until about two weeks before they were using the same TeleAtlas data they license around the world, this license forbids them for offering turn-by-turn directions along with the maps.

In the US, Google built their own map data using public domain government photos, the satallite data they have more liberal licenses to, and their own data generated from streetview.

So, basically Europe has to wait for Google to do the same thing before they can get turn-by-turn. Because they haven&#039;t invested nearly as much in streetview, and there is less access to public domain data, I think this will be a while for a lot of Europe.

But due to the relative geographic smallness/big market share of the UK, I&#039;d bet they get it first outside the US, some time late 2010 at a guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the people asking about licensing, the reason Google can do turn-by-turn on GMaps in the US is because they are using their own map data.</p>
<p>Up until about two weeks before they were using the same TeleAtlas data they license around the world, this license forbids them for offering turn-by-turn directions along with the maps.</p>
<p>In the US, Google built their own map data using public domain government photos, the satallite data they have more liberal licenses to, and their own data generated from streetview.</p>
<p>So, basically Europe has to wait for Google to do the same thing before they can get turn-by-turn. Because they haven&rsquo;t invested nearly as much in streetview, and there is less access to public domain data, I think this will be a while for a lot of Europe.</p>
<p>But due to the relative geographic smallness/big market share of the UK, I&rsquo;d bet they get it first outside the US, some time late 2010 at a guess.</p>
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		<title>By: GK</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-67549</link>
		<dc:creator>GK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google may not even have been involved in this change.  If the nav data is actually being hosted on servers run by TomTom they they could have simply disabled access to non-US maps.  When I tested it after the announcement, the Navigation menu item was still there, it just complained that it couldn&#039;t find a suitable route for my journey suggesting it&#039;s actually the local navigation data that&#039;s been blocked/erased rather than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google may not even have been involved in this change.  If the nav data is actually being hosted on servers run by TomTom they they could have simply disabled access to non-US maps.  When I tested it after the announcement, the Navigation menu item was still there, it just complained that it couldn&rsquo;t find a suitable route for my journey suggesting it&rsquo;s actually the local navigation data that&rsquo;s been blocked/erased rather than anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Sober</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-67508</link>
		<dc:creator>Sober</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question. What&#039;s the big deal with that license? What&#039;s so special in it that our huge G can&#039;t force?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question. What&rsquo;s the big deal with that license? What&rsquo;s so special in it that our huge G can&rsquo;t force?</p>
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		<title>By: Scot VanAlstine</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-67419</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot VanAlstine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is stopping it Google?  Who is the licensing entity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is stopping it Google?  Who is the licensing entity?</p>
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		<title>By: Morten</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-67382</link>
		<dc:creator>Morten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would indeed kill for Google Navigation on my Milestone. Waaaaaant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would indeed kill for Google Navigation on my Milestone. Waaaaaant.</p>
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		<title>By: Justa Notherguy</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-67353</link>
		<dc:creator>Justa Notherguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose you could just blame Google for being mean, greedy, or whatever suits your age &amp; temperament. 
.
Or, you might ask TomTom is they would mind if Google distributes their (Tele Atlas) overseas maps data counter to the licensing-terms.
.
Given that TomTom paid €2.9 billion for Tele Atlas, back in 2007, my guess is yes...they&#039;d mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose you could just blame Google for being mean, greedy, or whatever suits your age &amp; temperament.<br />
.<br />
Or, you might ask TomTom is they would mind if Google distributes their (Tele Atlas) overseas maps data counter to the licensing-terms.<br />
.<br />
Given that TomTom paid €2.9 billion for Tele Atlas, back in 2007, my guess is yes&#8230;they&#8217;d mind.</p>
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		<title>By: rigamrts</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/12/09/hey-europe-you-want-google-navigation-but-cant-have-it/#comment-67332</link>
		<dc:creator>rigamrts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>next stop seise and desist letters. i know it great they&#039;ve cracked the google nav code. didn&#039;t cyanogen trythis once and got slapped with a letter for providing the new market before it was availible. google can get just as sued by any goverment for what they did not saying it&#039;s going to happen.but if your going to look for money who would you go to. the broke geek or the multi billion dollar web giant. i know who i&#039;d hit up for the cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>next stop seise and desist letters. i know it great they&rsquo;ve cracked the google nav code. didn&rsquo;t cyanogen trythis once and got slapped with a letter for providing the new market before it was availible. google can get just as sued by any goverment for what they did not saying it&rsquo;s going to happen.but if your going to look for money who would you go to. the broke geek or the multi billion dollar web giant. i know who i&rsquo;d hit up for the cash.</p>
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