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	<title>Comments on: Android Stealing Symbian &amp; WinMo Market Share</title>
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		<title>By: kiril</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-73910</link>
		<dc:creator>kiril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the customer gets better service with more products on smart phones at a lower price (even with a subsidy with ads), I am glad Google is moving forward.  I am not an Andorid user, but its existence is making all other move in their direction, which I applaud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the customer gets better service with more products on smart phones at a lower price (even with a subsidy with ads), I am glad Google is moving forward.  I am not an Andorid user, but its existence is making all other move in their direction, which I applaud.</p>
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		<title>By: miltk</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-71915</link>
		<dc:creator>miltk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Numbers showing 3rd Q 2009 market share does not include the motoDroid, which came out in Nov?...is this &quot;calender year 3rd Q&quot; stats?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Numbers showing 3rd Q 2009 market share does not include the motoDroid, which came out in Nov?&hellip;is this &ldquo;calender year 3rd Q&rdquo; stats?</p>
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		<title>By: miltk</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-71914</link>
		<dc:creator>miltk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 09:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WiMo will only last as long as a manufacturer uses it, and that will eventually dwindle down to nothing. I cannot see anyone continuing to employ WiMo. Verizon is a superior service to att, so I suspect users who went to att simply for the iphone will move back. Essentially android, being new, will take away from the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WiMo will only last as long as a manufacturer uses it, and that will eventually dwindle down to nothing. I cannot see anyone continuing to employ WiMo. Verizon is a superior service to att, so I suspect users who went to att simply for the iphone will move back. Essentially android, being new, will take away from the others.</p>
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		<title>By: ari-free</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-61031</link>
		<dc:creator>ari-free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Android should focus on BB features. Once it has Flash, it will suck up all the casual iPhone users who spend all their desktop time on facebook apps...I think iPhone users will be very jealous if their phone is the only phone that doesn&#039;t support Flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Android should focus on BB features. Once it has Flash, it will suck up all the casual iPhone users who spend all their desktop time on facebook apps&hellip;I think iPhone users will be very jealous if their phone is the only phone that doesn&rsquo;t support Flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60972</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Google is missing the boat in 2.0 by excluding full encrypted exchange support. There is a large block of corp users that would love to drop BB or WinMo and get something like the iPhone or Android but poor security implementation is preventing their IT dept from letting them. I say this based on the number of people at my work that now carry both an iPhone/Android(personal) and BB(work). They do this not because they want to have 2 phones but because the only approved device to get corp email is the BB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Google is missing the boat in 2.0 by excluding full encrypted exchange support. There is a large block of corp users that would love to drop BB or WinMo and get something like the iPhone or Android but poor security implementation is preventing their IT dept from letting them. I say this based on the number of people at my work that now carry both an iPhone/Android(personal) and BB(work). They do this not because they want to have 2 phones but because the only approved device to get corp email is the BB.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60906</link>
		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iphone will be growing as ever, because it offers the best over all user experience. biggest looser will be symbian, cause does not have much to offer. nothing really. winmo will loose more, but&#039;s already done to be hones. Android will probably have about 10% cause it&#039;s still kind of geeky and will have problems the more phonescome up. gets harder to develeop for, so google need to pay the developer cause it wil be a pita to write apps for 50 different devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iphone will be growing as ever, because it offers the best over all user experience. biggest looser will be symbian, cause does not have much to offer. nothing really. winmo will loose more, but&rsquo;s already done to be hones. Android will probably have about 10% cause it&rsquo;s still kind of geeky and will have problems the more phonescome up. gets harder to develeop for, so google need to pay the developer cause it wil be a pita to write apps for 50 different devices.</p>
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		<title>By: hounddoglgs</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60889</link>
		<dc:creator>hounddoglgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing, if Google can get full native exchange support right on Android (not quite there yet as of 2.0, to my dismay) we&#039;ll see Android market share make BIG gains, at the expense of WinMo.  We&#039;ll see what the upcoming OTA updates bring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, if Google can get full native exchange support right on Android (not quite there yet as of 2.0, to my dismay) we&rsquo;ll see Android market share make BIG gains, at the expense of WinMo.  We&rsquo;ll see what the upcoming OTA updates bring.</p>
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		<title>By: hounddoglgs</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60886</link>
		<dc:creator>hounddoglgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think WinMo is dead.  Not only are the end users dropping it, but we are starting to see major phone manufacturers do so as well, or at least put a much larger focus on Android- Motorola, Samsung, HTC...  Worse yet (for MS), new players such as Dell are going straight to Android.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think WinMo is dead.  Not only are the end users dropping it, but we are starting to see major phone manufacturers do so as well, or at least put a much larger focus on Android- Motorola, Samsung, HTC&hellip;  Worse yet (for MS), new players such as Dell are going straight to Android.</p>
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		<title>By: modelportfolio2003</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60819</link>
		<dc:creator>modelportfolio2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob
I have seen estimates of 30 million Android phones to be sold in 2010, up from 9 million in 2009. I am not sure what % this translates to but it is awesome growth.  Already, Android is released on 12 phones in 30 countries, according to last published info.

By the way, any update on when Motorola Milestone/Droid will be launched in UK?  I had seen it listed SIM free at £449 on expansys.com recently but that page has been removed. Seems logical that T Mobile would carry Milestone on contract as it is a Google Experience phone like the G1. Would be awesome to see some Verizon type advertising in UK:  like the iDon&#039;t commercials!

Your thoughts appreciated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob<br>
I have seen estimates of 30 million Android phones to be sold in 2010, up from 9 million in 2009. I am not sure what % this translates to but it is awesome growth.  Already, Android is released on 12 phones in 30 countries, according to last published info.</p>
<p>By the way, any update on when Motorola Milestone/Droid will be launched in UK?  I had seen it listed SIM free at &pound;449 on expansys.com recently but that page has been removed. Seems logical that T Mobile would carry Milestone on contract as it is a Google Experience phone like the G1. Would be awesome to see some Verizon type advertising in UK:  like the iDon&rsquo;t commercials!</p>
<p>Your thoughts appreciated?</p>
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		<title>By: ari-free</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60794</link>
		<dc:creator>ari-free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the &#039;zen&#039; of Palm. Unfortunately that broke down once the user wanted to do something interesting. Then he had to look for all kinds of weird hacks. In the end, he was left with an outdated OS that was even harder to use than pocketpc after all the hacks.
We see this again and again with simple systems. They just can&#039;t scale up and the user gets left behind. Now look at Palm. Once upon a time, everything was called a Palm Pilot and it had thousands and thousands of apps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the &#8216;zen&#8217; of Palm. Unfortunately that broke down once the user wanted to do something interesting. Then he had to look for all kinds of weird hacks. In the end, he was left with an outdated OS that was even harder to use than pocketpc after all the hacks.<br />
We see this again and again with simple systems. They just can&#8217;t scale up and the user gets left behind. Now look at Palm. Once upon a time, everything was called a Palm Pilot and it had thousands and thousands of apps.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60786</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a biiig Android fan - early adopter of the G1 and all that - but I believe that your numbers for iPhone share in 2010 seem to be too low to me. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a biiig Android fan &ndash; early adopter of the G1 and all that &ndash; but I believe that your numbers for iPhone share in 2010 seem to be too low to me. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: maddmatt02</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60770</link>
		<dc:creator>maddmatt02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heres my guess, 

Android – 12.5%
BlackBerry – 22%
iPhone – 17.8%
Symbian – 34.5%
WebOS – 3.4%
WinMo – 5.1

so whats my prize when it turns out Im right....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heres my guess, </p>
<p>Android &ndash; 12.5%<br>
BlackBerry &ndash; 22%<br>
iPhone &ndash; 17.8%<br>
Symbian &ndash; 34.5%<br>
WebOS &ndash; 3.4%<br>
WinMo &ndash; 5.1</p>
<p>so whats my prize when it turns out Im right&hellip;.</p>
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		<title>By: Cybersedan</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60749</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybersedan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the estimates are off, the iPhone numbers are too high, this will level off... the fad / novelty has already begun to dissipate.

The rule of Trend and what is &quot;in&quot; will prevail as usual, I&#039;m sure everyone remembered when everyone had to have a RAZR.  It&#039;s getting old already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the estimates are off, the iPhone numbers are too high, this will level off&hellip; the fad / novelty has already begun to dissipate.</p>
<p>The rule of Trend and what is &ldquo;in&rdquo; will prevail as usual, I&rsquo;m sure everyone remembered when everyone had to have a RAZR.  It&rsquo;s getting old already.</p>
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		<title>By: ari-free</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60735</link>
		<dc:creator>ari-free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft assumed enterprise users would naturally go with WinMo because Microsoft products are used for business. But those went with Blackberry because it is more secure and it&#039;s not like you&#039;re getting the real MS Office on a WinMo phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft assumed enterprise users would naturally go with WinMo because Microsoft products are used for business. But those went with Blackberry because it is more secure and it&rsquo;s not like you&rsquo;re getting the real MS Office on a WinMo phone.</p>
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		<title>By: ari-free</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/11/15/android-stealing-symbian-winmo-market-share/#comment-60708</link>
		<dc:creator>ari-free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 00:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only that but HTC replaces mobile IE with the Opera browser. If the whole point of going with WinMo is to have the familiar Windows experience as on the desktop and the &#039;trust&#039; of using Microsoft products, you&#039;re not really getting that with Sense+Opera.
The only thing that could really make a difference is if MS came up with the Xbox phone. They have to do it themselves because nobody else wants to pay for a license anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that but HTC replaces mobile IE with the Opera browser. If the whole point of going with WinMo is to have the familiar Windows experience as on the desktop and the &#8216;trust&#8217; of using Microsoft products, you&#8217;re not really getting that with Sense+Opera.<br />
The only thing that could really make a difference is if MS came up with the Xbox phone. They have to do it themselves because nobody else wants to pay for a license anymore.</p>
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