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		<title>By: hakeem</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/28/motorola-droid-hands-on-impressions-by-engadget/#comment-55245</link>
		<dc:creator>hakeem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ironi

the first generation and 3G versions of the iPhone essentially run on identical hardware to the G1/MyTouch yet are significantly faster from a perception perspective.

I am worried that Android is very resource heavy compared to iPhone OS and thus needs substantially more hardware to achieve the same &#039;performance&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ironi</p>
<p>the first generation and 3G versions of the iPhone essentially run on identical hardware to the G1/MyTouch yet are significantly faster from a perception perspective.</p>
<p>I am worried that Android is very resource heavy compared to iPhone OS and thus needs substantially more hardware to achieve the same &lsquo;performance&rsquo;.</p>
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		<title>By: hakeem</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/28/motorola-droid-hands-on-impressions-by-engadget/#comment-55243</link>
		<dc:creator>hakeem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@BM

I&#039;m sorry, but if the OS allows you to run apps in the background and that can result in a slower experience for the user, I don&#039;t see how the test is invalid at all. Apple has obviously consciously and very deliberately made the decision to terminate every app (with the exception of mail, phone and ipod) upon close for the benefit of performance.

The &#039;best&#039; test is a normal real world condition test. The iPhone by its nature is always going to have nothing else running, and the Droid is most likely going to have a bunch of stuff running. This was one of the things that infuriated me the most about my HTC Magic and led me to switch back to the 3GS. Performance just became unacceptable as far as I was concerned after starting a few apps and having really no way to actually close them (sure you can go get taskkiller, but why should I have to?).

I&#039;ve already seen a few videos of the Droid scrolling in landscape mode that really make me wonder if this thing has enough power for the big screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BM</p>
<p>I&rsquo;m sorry, but if the OS allows you to run apps in the background and that can result in a slower experience for the user, I don&rsquo;t see how the test is invalid at all. Apple has obviously consciously and very deliberately made the decision to terminate every app (with the exception of mail, phone and ipod) upon close for the benefit of performance.</p>
<p>The &lsquo;best&rsquo; test is a normal real world condition test. The iPhone by its nature is always going to have nothing else running, and the Droid is most likely going to have a bunch of stuff running. This was one of the things that infuriated me the most about my HTC Magic and led me to switch back to the 3GS. Performance just became unacceptable as far as I was concerned after starting a few apps and having really no way to actually close them (sure you can go get taskkiller, but why should I have to?).</p>
<p>I&rsquo;ve already seen a few videos of the Droid scrolling in landscape mode that really make me wonder if this thing has enough power for the big screen.</p>
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		<title>By: mulda71</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/28/motorola-droid-hands-on-impressions-by-engadget/#comment-55196</link>
		<dc:creator>mulda71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok lets hear about the htc passion now so i can make up my freakin mind</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok lets hear about the htc passion now so i can make up my freakin mind</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Awkward</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/28/motorola-droid-hands-on-impressions-by-engadget/#comment-55172</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Awkward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BM said: &quot;That test between the two browsers is not an accurate or fair test at all. First of all, the Droid has true multitasking capabilities, thus it may have been sending and receiving all kinds of data in the background that the iPhone just is doing. A genuine test would have all background functions or apps disabled on both devices, and more than one site would be tested multiple times.&quot;

No, it&#039;s a perfectly fair comparison. People who use Android phones are quite likely to have stuff going on in the background, and are unlikely to disable everything before browsing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BM said: &ldquo;That test between the two browsers is not an accurate or fair test at all. First of all, the Droid has true multitasking capabilities, thus it may have been sending and receiving all kinds of data in the background that the iPhone just is doing. A genuine test would have all background functions or apps disabled on both devices, and more than one site would be tested multiple times.&rdquo;</p>
<p>No, it&rsquo;s a perfectly fair comparison. People who use Android phones are quite likely to have stuff going on in the background, and are unlikely to disable everything before browsing.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/28/motorola-droid-hands-on-impressions-by-engadget/#comment-55131</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Accelerometer comments

Switching to landscape via the accelerometer is a setting which is off by default in Android for devices with a sliding QWERTY keyboard. The lady showing off the phone clearly missed that one.

Also, as for the speed test, the Droid is still loading data for all of those widgets (Facebook, Pandora, SportsTap... etc) in the background as long as the Home application is still in memory. Also, the phones were placed very close together, and since they were both on WiFi, could have interferred with each other. Lastly, the browser in Android 2.0 supports Flash 10, which I&#039;m assuming is why the ad showed up on the Droid but not the iPhone.

iWant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Accelerometer comments</p>
<p>Switching to landscape via the accelerometer is a setting which is off by default in Android for devices with a sliding QWERTY keyboard. The lady showing off the phone clearly missed that one.</p>
<p>Also, as for the speed test, the Droid is still loading data for all of those widgets (Facebook, Pandora, SportsTap&hellip; etc) in the background as long as the Home application is still in memory. Also, the phones were placed very close together, and since they were both on WiFi, could have interferred with each other. Lastly, the browser in Android 2.0 supports Flash 10, which I&rsquo;m assuming is why the ad showed up on the Droid but not the iPhone.</p>
<p>iWant.</p>
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		<title>By: ironi</title>
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		<dc:creator>ironi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 03:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>never cared for the iphone myself.  i&#039;ve played with it enough that i would have fallen in love with it if it was really as great as everyone makes it out to be.  the only thing that makes it good is the GPU, but any device with a fast GPU would be great.  hell, even a winmo device that could render as quickly as an iphone would be acceptable and would beat the iphone in functionality if not in stability.  i can&#039;t see why the droid couldn&#039;t destroy the iphone, in fact, i&#039;m betting that even if the initial release doesn&#039;t accomplish it, the imminent hacks and upgrades will make this thing into a juggernaut that the iphone won&#039;t even get close to without some major changes.  of course, i&#039;m also aware of verizon&#039;s impeccable ability to harsh the mellow of any new device they allow onto their network.  this would be the only wrench in the gears that i can foresee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never cared for the iphone myself.  i&rsquo;ve played with it enough that i would have fallen in love with it if it was really as great as everyone makes it out to be.  the only thing that makes it good is the GPU, but any device with a fast GPU would be great.  hell, even a winmo device that could render as quickly as an iphone would be acceptable and would beat the iphone in functionality if not in stability.  i can&rsquo;t see why the droid couldn&rsquo;t destroy the iphone, in fact, i&rsquo;m betting that even if the initial release doesn&rsquo;t accomplish it, the imminent hacks and upgrades will make this thing into a juggernaut that the iphone won&rsquo;t even get close to without some major changes.  of course, i&rsquo;m also aware of verizon&rsquo;s impeccable ability to harsh the mellow of any new device they allow onto their network.  this would be the only wrench in the gears that i can foresee.</p>
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		<title>By: PatG</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note that the browser comparison is done over WiFi, not the ATT vs VZW networks.  So, over a WiFi connection the iP3gs beats the Droid, but try them over the actual 3G networks they will run on...  ATT being inept beyond belied and mind-numbingly slow, I am betting the Droid on VZW will crush it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that the browser comparison is done over WiFi, not the ATT vs VZW networks.  So, over a WiFi connection the iP3gs beats the Droid, but try them over the actual 3G networks they will run on&hellip;  ATT being inept beyond belied and mind-numbingly slow, I am betting the Droid on VZW will crush it.</p>
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		<title>By: Biggles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biggles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My ipod touch doesn&#039;t load nearly that fast on wifi.  I get most of the page loaded, and the bar across the top at about 90% before I wait what seems like forever for it to complete.  All the meanwhile, I can&#039;t scroll, select, or do anything else as I&#039;m LOCKED OUT of controlling movement of the page.  Not sure if other mobile html browsers are the same, but Safari absolutely sucks in that aspect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My ipod touch doesn&rsquo;t load nearly that fast on wifi.  I get most of the page loaded, and the bar across the top at about 90% before I wait what seems like forever for it to complete.  All the meanwhile, I can&rsquo;t scroll, select, or do anything else as I&rsquo;m LOCKED OUT of controlling movement of the page.  Not sure if other mobile html browsers are the same, but Safari absolutely sucks in that aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Maj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this looks so sweet but the software keyboard is still small and stupid and the keys are very close to each other while on the iphone its better and keys have more space between them.
And one more thing, Droid is supposedly 3.7 (or 3.8) inch screen then why is (the screen) less wide than the iphone !!! this is stupidly disappointing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this looks so sweet but the software keyboard is still small and stupid and the keys are very close to each other while on the iphone its better and keys have more space between them.<br />
And one more thing, Droid is supposedly 3.7 (or 3.8) inch screen then why is (the screen) less wide than the iphone !!! this is stupidly disappointing</p>
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		<title>By: Isaac Sloan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac Sloan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it has convo style text messaging</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it has convo style text messaging</p>
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		<title>By: deke</title>
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		<dc:creator>deke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sorry iphone would never load a page that fast!  To bad we have to wait till the 6th!  GRRRRRRRRR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sorry iphone would never load a page that fast!  To bad we have to wait till the 6th!  GRRRRRRRRR!</p>
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		<title>By: Deus Invictus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deus Invictus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jack I&#039;m assuming you are asking if it has an accelerometer because when she turns it landscape at the home screen it doesn&#039;t switch?  If that&#039;s all then that doesn&#039;t mean anything, the stock Cupcake, and Donut don&#039;t rotate on the home screen when you turn the phone sideways but some of the customer firmwares do.  I&#039;m pretty sure this phone is supposed to have an accelerometer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jack I&rsquo;m assuming you are asking if it has an accelerometer because when she turns it landscape at the home screen it doesn&rsquo;t switch?  If that&rsquo;s all then that doesn&rsquo;t mean anything, the stock Cupcake, and Donut don&rsquo;t rotate on the home screen when you turn the phone sideways but some of the customer firmwares do.  I&rsquo;m pretty sure this phone is supposed to have an accelerometer.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jack
Yes, per motrola&#039;s website.

http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-DROID-US-EN.alt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jack<br />
Yes, per motrola&#8217;s website.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-DROID-US-EN.alt" rel="nofollow">http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-DROID-US-EN.alt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody do an in-depth comparison of the iPhone 3gs to the Motorola Droid?  I currently have the iPhone and am more than disappointed (I&#039;ve had all 3 versions of it, and feel like it still misses some key features, like better camera, flash, multitasking, etc.).

Yet, EVERY review out there says that the Droid is great &quot;...for an Android device.&quot;  That leaves me wondering in what ways it does NOT stack up against the iPhone.  If it&#039;s simply that the Droid gives more user options and has less applications, that&#039;s fine.  But what else makes the iPhone shine when compared to a Droid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody do an in-depth comparison of the iPhone 3gs to the Motorola Droid?  I currently have the iPhone and am more than disappointed (I&rsquo;ve had all 3 versions of it, and feel like it still misses some key features, like better camera, flash, multitasking, etc.).</p>
<p>Yet, EVERY review out there says that the Droid is great &ldquo;&hellip;for an Android device.&rdquo;  That leaves me wondering in what ways it does NOT stack up against the iPhone.  If it&rsquo;s simply that the Droid gives more user options and has less applications, that&rsquo;s fine.  But what else makes the iPhone shine when compared to a Droid?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL does this thing even have an accelerometer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL does this thing even have an accelerometer?</p>
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