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	<title>Comments on: New T-Mobile Service Plans Go Live, Project Dark Unveiled</title>
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		<title>By: ryan brown</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-58725</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my contract is expiring in march. however, i would kind of like to be out of it now so i can join the rest of my family who are all signing up for an at&amp;t family plan in december. if i switched to the new unlimited everything, no contract plan, would it just be the $35 migration fee and i&#039;m out of the contract early (just paying month to month)? or is the $200 early termination fee still in effect? i looked on their website, it doesnt explain this anywhere :( thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my contract is expiring in march. however, i would kind of like to be out of it now so i can join the rest of my family who are all signing up for an at&amp;t family plan in december. if i switched to the new unlimited everything, no contract plan, would it just be the $35 migration fee and i&rsquo;m out of the contract early (just paying month to month)? or is the $200 early termination fee still in effect? i looked on their website, it doesnt explain this anywhere :( thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Zoran</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-56710</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost signed up for one of these plans today until I was told that there would be a $35 migration fee, that stopped me dead in my tracks. It&#039;s not because of the money it&#039;s the principal, I have been a loyal T-Mobile customer for 8 years (in Los Angeles) I have put up with there lousy coverage when they started out in my area, partially because the of the customer service and the company they would do anything to make you happy. In recent years T-Mobile has treated me shabbily from giving me lousy prices on upgrades to not honoring rebates, without wasting hours of my time on the phone to get a credit. And now this, I have to say I am seriously considering a Sprint plan (Sprint and T-Mobile service are comparable in my Area) . With a corporate discount that waves the connection fee and 10% off the monthly fee not to mention free mobile to mobile to any cell phone, nights and weekends that start at 7 and unlimited text and data, why would I stay with T-Mobile? I reiterate it&#039;s not the money the plans are close Sprints seems a little better, $35 is INSULTING for a loyal 8 year customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost signed up for one of these plans today until I was told that there would be a $35 migration fee, that stopped me dead in my tracks. It&rsquo;s not because of the money it&rsquo;s the principal, I have been a loyal T-Mobile customer for 8 years (in Los Angeles) I have put up with there lousy coverage when they started out in my area, partially because the of the customer service and the company they would do anything to make you happy. In recent years T-Mobile has treated me shabbily from giving me lousy prices on upgrades to not honoring rebates, without wasting hours of my time on the phone to get a credit. And now this, I have to say I am seriously considering a Sprint plan (Sprint and T-Mobile service are comparable in my Area) . With a corporate discount that waves the connection fee and 10% off the monthly fee not to mention free mobile to mobile to any cell phone, nights and weekends that start at 7 and unlimited text and data, why would I stay with T-Mobile? I reiterate it&rsquo;s not the money the plans are close Sprints seems a little better, $35 is INSULTING for a loyal 8 year customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Zambrano</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-56551</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Zambrano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This makes absolutely no sense! to get any smartphone u have to have the unlimited text+Web ok fine. but then they add an extra 25 &quot;unlimited android internet&#039; so its like im being charged twice for internet absolutely stupid!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes absolutely no sense! to get any smartphone u have to have the unlimited text+Web ok fine. but then they add an extra 25 &ldquo;unlimited android internet&rsquo; so its like im being charged twice for internet absolutely stupid!</p>
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		<title>By: Milind Rao</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-56066</link>
		<dc:creator>Milind Rao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 23:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked with T-mobile and the $10 unlimited web does not work for the G1.  Unlimited web for the G1 is $25.  Which means that the $500 talk + unlimited web (no text) Even More Plus plan is $60 + taxes + $35 activation.  Not so hot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked with T-mobile and the $10 unlimited web does not work for the G1.  Unlimited web for the G1 is $25.  Which means that the $500 talk + unlimited web (no text) Even More Plus plan is $60 + taxes + $35 activation.  Not so hot.</p>
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		<title>By: SEATTLE</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-54435</link>
		<dc:creator>SEATTLE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 02:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is funny how people complain about migration fee&#039;s, upgrade fee&#039;s and activation fee&#039;s.  If you do not agree with all of the fee&#039;s why are you getting a cell phone in the first place.  Everyone ask yourself this question.  If I am complaining about a $35 fee can I afford the monthly fee.  If you say yes then don&#039;t complain and if you say no then you don&#039;t need a cell phone.  STOP COMPLAINING IT DOES NOT GET YOU FAR IN LIFE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is funny how people complain about migration fee&rsquo;s, upgrade fee&rsquo;s and activation fee&rsquo;s.  If you do not agree with all of the fee&rsquo;s why are you getting a cell phone in the first place.  Everyone ask yourself this question.  If I am complaining about a $35 fee can I afford the monthly fee.  If you say yes then don&rsquo;t complain and if you say no then you don&rsquo;t need a cell phone.  STOP COMPLAINING IT DOES NOT GET YOU FAR IN LIFE!</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-54281</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>correction total price was near $300.00 per month on old plan. Not 3k</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>correction total price was near $300.00 per month on old plan. Not 3k</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on price plan:

I switched today from :old&quot; Unlimited Family Plan to the new one. &quot;Old plan&quot; was $149 for the first 2 lines $49 for 3rd line. Not to mention the 24.99 for Web (my phone only). So after taxes I was paying upwards of 3000.00 month. With the new plan I am only paying $134 month. If you have unlimited, who really cares if you have Fav5? As for the $35 fee to transfer, I am only being billed for 1 line not all 3, not sure if there is a mix up on the line transfer or not.I would suggest calling Tmo to find out for sure. And IF I was charged for all 3 I would be OK with it because the new plan would pretty much pay for the transfer fee(s)the first month.

 I don&#039;t understand how people can bad mouth T MO. Unlike the &quot;other&quot; cell companies, TMo don&#039;t have roaming charges. Which for those who are spoiled by Tmo no nation wide roaming policy, those charges ADD UP. I have a friend with US Cellular who has to pay for bundle roaming minutes. And its around 20 cents a minute. Talk about needing to get with the times? Right. 

I have had Tmo for 4 years and even though I get dropped calls every now and again, I wouldn&#039;t switch. I have had Nextel (before it was Sprint) Sprint and Cingular/ATT and none of them is any better the TMo as far as service goes. 
For all the &quot;Old timers&quot; please don&#039;t complin about the Droid phones. If its too high tech for you, stick with a basic. No one is forcing you to switch. I LOVE all the Bells and Whistles and Flashing Lights! I say the more high tech the better! And NO I am not a 15y/o but an intelligent adult with brilliant taste for toys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on price plan:</p>
<p>I switched today from :old&#8221; Unlimited Family Plan to the new one. &#8220;Old plan&#8221; was $149 for the first 2 lines $49 for 3rd line. Not to mention the 24.99 for Web (my phone only). So after taxes I was paying upwards of 3000.00 month. With the new plan I am only paying $134 month. If you have unlimited, who really cares if you have Fav5? As for the $35 fee to transfer, I am only being billed for 1 line not all 3, not sure if there is a mix up on the line transfer or not.I would suggest calling Tmo to find out for sure. And IF I was charged for all 3 I would be OK with it because the new plan would pretty much pay for the transfer fee(s)the first month.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t understand how people can bad mouth T MO. Unlike the &#8220;other&#8221; cell companies, TMo don&#8217;t have roaming charges. Which for those who are spoiled by Tmo no nation wide roaming policy, those charges ADD UP. I have a friend with US Cellular who has to pay for bundle roaming minutes. And its around 20 cents a minute. Talk about needing to get with the times? Right. </p>
<p>I have had Tmo for 4 years and even though I get dropped calls every now and again, I wouldn&#8217;t switch. I have had Nextel (before it was Sprint) Sprint and Cingular/ATT and none of them is any better the TMo as far as service goes.<br />
For all the &#8220;Old timers&#8221; please don&#8217;t complin about the Droid phones. If its too high tech for you, stick with a basic. No one is forcing you to switch. I LOVE all the Bells and Whistles and Flashing Lights! I say the more high tech the better! And NO I am not a 15y/o but an intelligent adult with brilliant taste for toys!</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-54265</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had 5 different Samsung Behold phones since Jan 2009. After negotiations with T-Mobile, I am now receiving the Motorola CLIQ for Free with no extention of my contract, best news, I get to keep the Behold as a &quot;back up&quot; phone. I am very excited to get the new CLIQ. Hope it lives up to its promisies! :^)

BTW: 
Its AWESOME that they (T-MO)finally slashed their plan prices by half. T-Mobile is for sure keeping pace if not exceeding their market competitors. As with ALL cell companies, they do need more work on dropped call issues.

Mandy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had 5 different Samsung Behold phones since Jan 2009. After negotiations with T-Mobile, I am now receiving the Motorola CLIQ for Free with no extention of my contract, best news, I get to keep the Behold as a &#8220;back up&#8221; phone. I am very excited to get the new CLIQ. Hope it lives up to its promisies! :^)</p>
<p>BTW:<br />
Its AWESOME that they (T-MO)finally slashed their plan prices by half. T-Mobile is for sure keeping pace if not exceeding their market competitors. As with ALL cell companies, they do need more work on dropped call issues.</p>
<p>Mandy</p>
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		<title>By: coolMANDINGO</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-54186</link>
		<dc:creator>coolMANDINGO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is tmobile trying their BEST to be the worst? I mean c&#039;mon son!! Who in the h e double hockey sticks chooses the phones for tmobile. I think they have a little teenage monkey in the cage and distract the monkey with bright lights!! I mean come on. They give us the mt3g while sprnt gets the hero! I&#039;ve been with tmobile for 7 yrs and I feel disrespected by the products they have delivered or giving us. Right out the box the other carriers are killing tmobile.they are catering to the non computer friendly,teenage,elderly crowsd. What about the men in women that love to have the hotest devices with hottest features. I don&#039;t give a damn about social networks ie cliq. They&#039;re buolding there whole fan base around something most adults don&#039;t care about. We want power and functionaility. I have tmobile and I have the g1. I had the mt3g for about 2 hours and returned it right back to tmobile. Its the the same bloody phone as the g1 minus the keyboard.tmobile usa is behind and its because the tmobile usa consumers are ok with bs. Why is that oversea that get the best phones and newer techs first? Tmbile doesn&#039;t want to be the best the just want to exist.I have a 2 yr contract with tmo and I&#039;m canceling to get the either the droid or hero I&#039;m still deciding. When tmobile GROWS up I might return!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is tmobile trying their BEST to be the worst? I mean c&rsquo;mon son!! Who in the h e double hockey sticks chooses the phones for tmobile. I think they have a little teenage monkey in the cage and distract the monkey with bright lights!! I mean come on. They give us the mt3g while sprnt gets the hero! I&rsquo;ve been with tmobile for 7 yrs and I feel disrespected by the products they have delivered or giving us. Right out the box the other carriers are killing tmobile.they are catering to the non computer friendly,teenage,elderly crowsd. What about the men in women that love to have the hotest devices with hottest features. I don&rsquo;t give a damn about social networks ie cliq. They&rsquo;re buolding there whole fan base around something most adults don&rsquo;t care about. We want power and functionaility. I have tmobile and I have the g1. I had the mt3g for about 2 hours and returned it right back to tmobile. Its the the same bloody phone as the g1 minus the keyboard.tmobile usa is behind and its because the tmobile usa consumers are ok with bs. Why is that oversea that get the best phones and newer techs first? Tmbile doesn&rsquo;t want to be the best the just want to exist.I have a 2 yr contract with tmo and I&rsquo;m canceling to get the either the droid or hero I&rsquo;m still deciding. When tmobile GROWS up I might return!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: D</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-54154</link>
		<dc:creator>D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To migrate from an existing T-Mobile rate plan to an Even More Plus (no contract), you only pay $35 for the first 2 lines. So, if you have 5 lines on a family plan and want to migrate to no contract, you pay $70. The only grandfathered plans that are better than the new plans are the unlimited loyalty and the family time 1800 my faves. None of the new plans will beat those.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To migrate from an existing T-Mobile rate plan to an Even More Plus (no contract), you only pay $35 for the first 2 lines. So, if you have 5 lines on a family plan and want to migrate to no contract, you pay $70. The only grandfathered plans that are better than the new plans are the unlimited loyalty and the family time 1800 my faves. None of the new plans will beat those.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-54067</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, Sprint&#039;s plan is $170, not $180.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, Sprint&rsquo;s plan is $170, not $180.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-54066</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been with tmobile for 6 years and was about to renew my contract to get a discount on phones. This new plan might make me switch carriers. 
Sprint will give me a discount on a phone and 4 lines with unlimited text, data, and mobile minutes(to any cell phone in the US) for $180. Tmobile was 270 for 4 phones with data and that is without discounts on phones. Its not worth it. 
Verizon has options for no contract too. I am disapointed in Tmobile&#039;s new plans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been with tmobile for 6 years and was about to renew my contract to get a discount on phones. This new plan might make me switch carriers.<br />
Sprint will give me a discount on a phone and 4 lines with unlimited text, data, and mobile minutes(to any cell phone in the US) for $180. Tmobile was 270 for 4 phones with data and that is without discounts on phones. Its not worth it.<br />
Verizon has options for no contract too. I am disapointed in Tmobile&#8217;s new plans.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-53957</link>
		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is it just me or is the description in those images redundant with &quot;nights and &amp; weekends&quot;.  maybe these pix were leaked so we could proofread them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is it just me or is the description in those images redundant with &ldquo;nights and &amp; weekends&rdquo;.  maybe these pix were leaked so we could proofread them?</p>
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		<title>By: name</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-53890</link>
		<dc:creator>name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GB
I am in exactly the same boat as you.  I need little minutes (next to no minutes).  I just need cheaper data plan for an Android phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GB<br />
I am in exactly the same boat as you.  I need little minutes (next to no minutes).  I just need cheaper data plan for an Android phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Kaufman - Techlife</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/10/25/new-t-mobile-service-plans-go-live-project-dark-unveiled/#comment-53878</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Kaufman - Techlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just looked - on the Even More - Unlimited Data (only one offered) is $40/month up from $34.99 and $24.99 (400 txt msg).  

To see this, go add 3 G1&#039;s to an Even More plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looked &ndash; on the Even More &ndash; Unlimited Data (only one offered) is $40/month up from $34.99 and $24.99 (400 txt msg).  </p>
<p>To see this, go add 3 G1&prime;s to an Even More plan.</p>
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