Comments on: Buy Windows 7: For Nostalgia & Sanity http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/ Android Phone News, Rumors, Reviews, Apps, Forums & More! Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:51:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jjspierx http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-53070 jjspierx Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:47:31 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-53070 I think it is way too soon to be jumping on the Chrome OS bandwagon, when really, we know nothing about it. I don't think it is even intended to be a Windows replacement OS. Microsoft will dominate the corporate and gaming world for years to come, if only because developers have been coding for Windows for as many years as they have. Chrome isn't suppose to be capable of serious 3D gaming (from my understanding) and corporate business packages aren't going to suddenly switch to a new untest operating system. It will take YEARS before the Chrome OS can make a name for itself as stable, secure and fast enough operating system (whether or not it is as initial release) for developers to either make the switch or to support multiple OS's for high-end business, security, networking and gaming applications. I'm not trying to downplay Chrome OS as having an important role, I just don't think that is the role they are intending, I think there intentions are for low-end small netbooks, and devices which can browse the internet, use office applications, take notes, etc... This is fine for many computer users out there. However, many others will require much more than that from their computer and operating system. I think it is way too soon to be jumping on the Chrome OS bandwagon, when really, we know nothing about it. I don’t think it is even intended to be a Windows replacement OS. Microsoft will dominate the corporate and gaming world for years to come, if only because developers have been coding for Windows for as many years as they have. Chrome isn’t suppose to be capable of serious 3D gaming (from my understanding) and corporate business packages aren’t going to suddenly switch to a new untest operating system. It will take YEARS before the Chrome OS can make a name for itself as stable, secure and fast enough operating system (whether or not it is as initial release) for developers to either make the switch or to support multiple OS’s for high-end business, security, networking and gaming applications. I’m not trying to downplay Chrome OS as having an important role, I just don’t think that is the role they are intending, I think there intentions are for low-end small netbooks, and devices which can browse the internet, use office applications, take notes, etc… This is fine for many computer users out there. However, many others will require much more than that from their computer and operating system.

]]> By: john http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52930 john Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:22:09 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52930 Macs are the best. The Only problems that I know of is music format and syncing softwares. Does HTC Sync work on Snow Leopard? Can Android play itunes formatted music? If not not, how do I put my itunes music on an android phone and/or HTC Sense? Macs are the best. The Only problems that I know of is music format and syncing softwares.

Does HTC Sync work on Snow Leopard?
Can Android play itunes formatted music? If not not, how do I put my itunes music on an android phone and/or HTC Sense?

]]> By: imran hussaini http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52921 imran hussaini Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:55:44 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52921 i guess im the only person here who likes and uses vista.. well the first time i used was i got my first laptop.. i was then shocked that vista sucks. but when sp1 was released everything was fine! infact i loved it and still am! i guess im the only person here who likes and uses vista.. well the first time i used was i got my first laptop.. i was then shocked that vista sucks. but when sp1 was released everything was fine! infact i loved it and still am!

]]> By: Just saying http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52914 Just saying Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:37:24 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52914 The problem with the Windows is that it can hardly be blamed to be evolving. Well sure there is more a bit more eyecandy and it seems to be getting faster, but it's user interface is still pretty much the same it has been the last 10 years. This becomes very obvious when you compare it to OSX and eg. Ubuntu, which both have brought new innovations to the UI such as virtual desktops or gestures. And it only "works" because you people know how to use it. One of my friends bought a laptop with Windows Vista and requires constantly my help when he has problems with it while I installed Ubuntu to one of my other friends laptop and she hasn't even once asked my help. It just worked. And even tough I'm not quite sure that the Chrome will be a fully fletched OS as it's mostly focused around the internet, at least it will bring something new and quite possible innovative to the table. That's why I'm quite anxiously waiting it :) The problem with the Windows is that it can hardly be blamed to be evolving. Well sure there is more a bit more eyecandy and it seems to be getting faster, but it’s user interface is still pretty much the same it has been the last 10 years. This becomes very obvious when you compare it to OSX and eg. Ubuntu, which both have brought new innovations to the UI such as virtual desktops or gestures.

And it only “works” because you people know how to use it. One of my friends bought a laptop with Windows Vista and requires constantly my help when he has problems with it while I installed Ubuntu to one of my other friends laptop and she hasn’t even once asked my help. It just worked.

And even tough I’m not quite sure that the Chrome will be a fully fletched OS as it’s mostly focused around the internet, at least it will bring something new and quite possible innovative to the table. That’s why I’m quite anxiously waiting it :)

]]> By: Pedro Rodriguez http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52900 Pedro Rodriguez Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:54:14 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52900 I doubt I will be giving away windows by next year. Windows is still the gaming OS (and will be for a while). So, until Chrome OS can become a gaming OS I will keep my Windows. Unless I can get enough money to buy a gaming PC. In which case I will get a Chrome OS Netbook for work. I doubt I will be giving away windows by next year. Windows is still the gaming OS (and will be for a while). So, until Chrome OS can become a gaming OS I will keep my Windows.

Unless I can get enough money to buy a gaming PC. In which case I will get a Chrome OS Netbook for work.

]]> By: The Guitar God http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52859 The Guitar God Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:05:09 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52859 I'm looking forward to a cheap student upgrade with 7. My Linux expert says this OS should actually be decent and reasonably lighter. I’m looking forward to a cheap student upgrade with 7. My Linux expert says this OS should actually be decent and reasonably lighter.

]]> By: Siby http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52853 Siby Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:20:04 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52853 "This time next year you’ll be shopping for your first Chrome OS Netbook/Laptop" that's a big leap of faith don't you think? “This time next year you’ll be shopping for your first Chrome OS Netbook/Laptop”

that’s a big leap of faith don’t you think?

]]> By: bray424 http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52849 bray424 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:12:56 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52849 I've been using Windows 7 RC as my main OS for the last 2 months and I love it, and this is coming from someone who gave up on Vista in about 4 hours. So many little changes here and there that make you wonder why they ever did it any other way, with performance comparable to XP. That being said, if Chrome OS is what I expect it to be (Linux + corporate polish, as in never having to see a command prompt), I will definitely be dual booting the two. I’ve been using Windows 7 RC as my main OS for the last 2 months and I love it, and this is coming from someone who gave up on Vista in about 4 hours. So many little changes here and there that make you wonder why they ever did it any other way, with performance comparable to XP.

That being said, if Chrome OS is what I expect it to be (Linux + corporate polish, as in never having to see a command prompt), I will definitely be dual booting the two.

]]> By: *d.* http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52846 *d.* Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:04:49 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52846 I've got a lovely bunch of coconuts! Sitting nice and neat, in a row! Big ones, small ones, ones as big as your head! I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconuts! Sitting nice and neat, in a row! Big ones, small ones, ones as big as your head!

]]> By: Perry http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52844 Perry Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:00:43 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52844 I have been using windows 7 on my tablet pc and HTPC for a while now and like it, but have some caveats. First, it runs much better out of the box than it does a few months down the road with a full catalog of applications installed. Second, I am not a fan of the networking. Third, it is a memory hog. On my tablet pc (x200t) I am forced to run 32 bit (due to legacy driver support needs) and suck up the memory pretty regularly. On my desktop PC I run no pagefile - it makes things much faster and minimizes disk use. I can't do that without constant memory errors in 7 on a 32 bit system. It noticably hurts battery time. On a loaded system, it's no different (in most cases higher) than memory load in vista, even with all the shiny graphical stuff turned off. I guess I have been spoiled with the boot times in Ubuntu/LinuxMint, but a fully loaded 7 takes DAYS to boot, noticeably longer than XP Pro. Upsides to 7 - I love the new dock and Aero Peek. The tablet integration is much better than it was. I don't use or care about multi-touch (it's a gimmick as far as I am concerned and does nothing to increase productivity). Main reasons I use it over ubuntu most of the time is simply software related. I use Bluebeam PDF revu and onenote daily. I use GIMP on occasion, but it's not up to the level of PS. Haven't found anything that comes close to matching dreamweaver on linux (but given how often I am messing with web work, I haven't looked hard). With PuTTy for shell/vi access and Code::Blocks/Eclipse available in windows I can fill shell/coding needs with minimal fuss. It's not as nice as terminal and linux, but it's close enough. I love ubuntu/linux in general, but they simply don't have the software support yet. I would switch to it exclusively if it had everything I need. It's a great system. Till then, I will be using windows 7. I am not as excited about Chrome as Rob is for the same reasons I don't use ubuntu exclusively. Once my campus comp sci department offers it for free/close to free, I will get a license and do a fresh install to replace the build I have been using for a few months and see if it's any better. I might try to install both the 32 and 64 bit on this system so I can use the 64 for daily tasks and switch to the 32 when I need to use legacy drivers. I have been using windows 7 on my tablet pc and HTPC for a while now and like it, but have some caveats.

First, it runs much better out of the box than it does a few months down the road with a full catalog of applications installed.

Second, I am not a fan of the networking.

Third, it is a memory hog. On my tablet pc (x200t) I am forced to run 32 bit (due to legacy driver support needs) and suck up the memory pretty regularly. On my desktop PC I run no pagefile – it makes things much faster and minimizes disk use. I can’t do that without constant memory errors in 7 on a 32 bit system. It noticably hurts battery time. On a loaded system, it’s no different (in most cases higher) than memory load in vista, even with all the shiny graphical stuff turned off.

I guess I have been spoiled with the boot times in Ubuntu/LinuxMint, but a fully loaded 7 takes DAYS to boot, noticeably longer than XP Pro.

Upsides to 7 – I love the new dock and Aero Peek. The tablet integration is much better than it was. I don’t use or care about multi-touch (it’s a gimmick as far as I am concerned and does nothing to increase productivity).

Main reasons I use it over ubuntu most of the time is simply software related. I use Bluebeam PDF revu and onenote daily. I use GIMP on occasion, but it’s not up to the level of PS. Haven’t found anything that comes close to matching dreamweaver on linux (but given how often I am messing with web work, I haven’t looked hard).

With PuTTy for shell/vi access and Code::Blocks/Eclipse available in windows I can fill shell/coding needs with minimal fuss. It’s not as nice as terminal and linux, but it’s close enough.

I love ubuntu/linux in general, but they simply don’t have the software support yet. I would switch to it exclusively if it had everything I need. It’s a great system.

Till then, I will be using windows 7. I am not as excited about Chrome as Rob is for the same reasons I don’t use ubuntu exclusively.

Once my campus comp sci department offers it for free/close to free, I will get a license and do a fresh install to replace the build I have been using for a few months and see if it’s any better.

I might try to install both the 32 and 64 bit on this system so I can use the 64 for daily tasks and switch to the 32 when I need to use legacy drivers.

]]> By: Eric http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52842 Eric Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:56:28 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52842 I completely skipped Vista.. I never felt the need for it. XP runs better on my machine and did most of the stuff I needed. Most of the time I boot my machine into Ubuntu though. It's an excellent OS. I only really use Windows when I 'have to': Games, running PlayOn to relay Hulu etc to my Xbox 360. Windows really is in trouble though... I wonder how many more releases we will see? This could be the last one for a while... or ever? I don't see why Chrome hasn't caught on more. That is basically all I use when I'm in XP. It seems really fast and works great. For the rare occasion when it gives me issues I just open up Firefox. I completely uninstalled Internet Explorer because it was causing me all kinds of issues. I completely skipped Vista.. I never felt the need for it. XP runs better on my machine and did most of the stuff I needed. Most of the time I boot my machine into Ubuntu though. It’s an excellent OS. I only really use Windows when I ‘have to’: Games, running PlayOn to relay Hulu etc to my Xbox 360. Windows really is in trouble though… I wonder how many more releases we will see? This could be the last one for a while… or ever?

I don’t see why Chrome hasn’t caught on more. That is basically all I use when I’m in XP. It seems really fast and works great. For the rare occasion when it gives me issues I just open up Firefox. I completely uninstalled Internet Explorer because it was causing me all kinds of issues.

]]> By: Terran http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52830 Terran Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:28:05 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52830 LOL flame wars :) They just cant be stopped. Well for the sake of being like everyone else, I'll post an opinionated comment. I'm really not excited at all for Chrome. I love what android has done (since i see it as more of something to compete with the iPhone.) It not perfect by any means or revolutionary in an extreme sense. It's just something new from the limits we have had before. As far as computer OS's go. I have Windows 7 coming in the mail in the next few days FOR FREE, since I just bought my laptop a few months ago. I have had VERY little problems with Vista and don't see why everyone has such a hate for it. Yes, its MS. Yes, it's not a pretty as OSX. and it is mostlikely not as good as linux if you know a lot about programing or computers in itself. BUT, for the common day user it will feel right at home. Its familiar, reliable for the most part, easy to use for basic functions. I'm happy with Windows, and I'd be happy with OSX or Linux too. They are all great functioning OS's all aimed at different crowds. It's easy to forget on sites like this though that it is only the techy geek scene who check this and other tech sites. And because its the techy geek scene, they all feel the need to argue about which OS is better when it doesn't matter if one OS starts 2 seconds faster, or any other reason to fight about it. As long as it gets the job done then then you should be happy. well, there is my rant opinion. NOW STFU ABOUT WHICH OS IS BETTER AND TALK ABOUT ANDROID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL flame wars :) They just cant be stopped. Well for the sake of being like everyone else, I’ll post an opinionated comment. I’m really not excited at all for Chrome. I love what android has done (since i see it as more of something to compete with the iPhone.) It not perfect by any means or revolutionary in an extreme sense. It’s just something new from the limits we have had before. As far as computer OS’s go. I have Windows 7 coming in the mail in the next few days FOR FREE, since I just bought my laptop a few months ago. I have had VERY little problems with Vista and don’t see why everyone has such a hate for it. Yes, its MS. Yes, it’s not a pretty as OSX. and it is mostlikely not as good as linux if you know a lot about programing or computers in itself. BUT, for the common day user it will feel right at home. Its familiar, reliable for the most part, easy to use for basic functions. I’m happy with Windows, and I’d be happy with OSX or Linux too. They are all great functioning OS’s all aimed at different crowds. It’s easy to forget on sites like this though that it is only the techy geek scene who check this and other tech sites. And because its the techy geek scene, they all feel the need to argue about which OS is better when it doesn’t matter if one OS starts 2 seconds faster, or any other reason to fight about it. As long as it gets the job done then then you should be happy. well, there is my rant opinion. NOW STFU ABOUT WHICH OS IS BETTER AND TALK ABOUT ANDROID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: veggie monkey http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52813 veggie monkey Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:46:35 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52813 @Gary: I'm running all my Windows games just fine in Ubuntu. But I'm slowly dropping them all and replacing them with free equivalent games, most of which are cross-platform. But you go ahead and hang on to your security blanket, since it clearly has no history of "issues". @Gary: I’m running all my Windows games just fine in Ubuntu. But I’m slowly dropping them all and replacing them with free equivalent games, most of which are cross-platform. But you go ahead and hang on to your security blanket, since it clearly has no history of “issues”.

]]> By: veggie monkey http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52809 veggie monkey Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:40:27 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52809 You saw this post coming: I've watched the Windows 7 demos. It looks like it's almost caught up with Ubuntu. I switched from XP to Ubuntu a couple months ago when I realized there was no good Windows upgrade path. It was scary at first, but ultimately liberating, much like divorcing my first wife but with far greater cost savings. Windows 7 Ultimate: $319.99. Ubuntu: Free. If you're a "user" I can understand the desire to stick with Windows (or Mac). But if you're a self-respecting nerd, you are bringing shame upon yourself and your ancestors if you don't make the switch. You saw this post coming: I’ve watched the Windows 7 demos. It looks like it’s almost caught up with Ubuntu. I switched from XP to Ubuntu a couple months ago when I realized there was no good Windows upgrade path. It was scary at first, but ultimately liberating, much like divorcing my first wife but with far greater cost savings. Windows 7 Ultimate: $319.99. Ubuntu: Free. If you’re a “user” I can understand the desire to stick with Windows (or Mac). But if you’re a self-respecting nerd, you are bringing shame upon yourself and your ancestors if you don’t make the switch.

]]> By: Gary http://phandroid.com/2009/10/22/buy-windows-7-for-nostalgia-sanity/#comment-52802 Gary Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:13:54 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=6334#comment-52802 Those of you ripping on Windows, you can't knock the fact that it runs every game + every development app. Any other OS out there has issues with some aspects/software of each of those industries. For that fact alone, I'm sticking with windows. Those of you ripping on Windows, you can’t knock the fact that it runs every game + every development app. Any other OS out there has issues with some aspects/software of each of those industries. For that fact alone, I’m sticking with windows.

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