Comments on: enTourage eDGe: Dualbook Round 2

By: Hector Rodriguez

Hector Rodriguez — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:23:48 +0000

In the video it shows the device folded 360 degrees, is that what you guys referring too ?
It looks pretty good so far, I would like for Cnet or one of the other popular electronic reviewers take a shot at this to see what they think.

By: Trav

Trav — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:32:30 +0000

I agree, Steve.
After reading this, it’s obvious phandroid should stick to reviewing Android PHONES and leave the other android devices alone, as it is clearly out of their capacity. At least Rob’s who can’t do basic research or make simple observations. This article is grossly inaccurate and should be removed or updated.
Further more, someone writing for a site called phandroid should be saying, “can we please stop using capital letters in the wrong place for the sake of being cutesy? If that was your goal you could have announced this last year as the Entouragr. Awful, really.” Would that make you the kettle or the pot?

By: Steve

Steve — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:06:27 +0000

Looks as if this review was written without ever looking at the company’s web site. Almost all the “concerns” expressed – such as not being able to fold over completely are dispelled in text, images and video on their website.

By: Don

Don — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:03:25 +0000

Having two screens while reading is a killer feature (at least for me it is). But I don’t want to read two screens like a book.

My biggest objection to ebook readers for reading non-fiction books with illustrations, diagrams or code is that I need to keep a copy of the illustration visible while turning the pages of the book. You cannot do this with a regular ebook, but this device can do it and from the videos it looks dead simple.

That plus the ability to annotate an ebook makes this a compelling ebook reader for non-fiction books.

Plus, most technical books weigh in at about the same size and weight as this guy so its bulk is not such a big objection. I can see having a smaller, lighter, thinner ebook reader for reading fiction or newspapers but for non-fiction this guy looks great.

By: Horace Bryan

Horace Bryan — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:55:46 +0000

Those of us who brave it and buy the first version ought to get a friendly upgrade after the bugs are worked out and physical adjustments have been implemented. Will the 3G facet allow the device to be used as a cell phone?
Would one be able to run Microsoft “One-Note” on it?
How about all those nifty “Apps” available for the Iphone, would they run on it?

By: KenJr

KenJr — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:51:32 +0000

Before I buy this I need some answers:

. My most recent book purchases on my Kindle have been Brown’s The Lost Symbol and Gellman’s Angler, both just recently released and both already best sellers. Before I buy anyone else’s reader I want to know that I can buy just released books that are destined to be best sellers for less than $10 each.

. I can get about a week of reading on my Kindle with one battery charge; the Kindle 2 can do 2 weeks. Here we’re talking about 6 hours. It would seem that I could get days instead of hours if I spend most of my time reading on the e-ink reader, but I’d think that if that’s the case the eDGe would advertise that fact. 6 hours is not enough.

. There’s mention of an optional EVDO modem. Can I natively connect using free EVDO as I can with my Kindle (30 second book downloads) or are additional costs involved?

. Is dictionary on the fly available as there is on the Kindle (a much appreciated feature).

. How good is the operating system as built in (if it works in a manner similar to my my Samsung Omnia internet cell phone, forget it).

Hopefully beta models of this will be made available to independent reviewers before this gadget actually hits the market.

By: veenafp

veenafp — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:22:44 +0000

I saw a prototype of this at the Frankfurt Book Fair. The screens do indeed fold back on each other which, as you mention Rob, does make it much more appealing. This is definitely a step in the right direction as far as eReaders are concerned. Being able to write on it is very cool, particularly for the future of student e-textbooks. It is a bit thick however, but I imagine that will probably change in future versions. I’d love to mess around with it more and check it out but can’t do the $490 required.

By: edge fan

edge fan — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:49:36 +0000

If you go their website http://www.entourageedge.com you will see images of it folded over 360 degrees to access the eBook or Netbook alone. Go to the home page and click on the “see more”.

They even show a picture of it streaming a video lecture. Cool.

By: KBlack

KBlack — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:56:16 +0000

Shit that’s a lot of info. Almost makes me want an ebook. good job Rob!

By: Rob_nz

Rob_nz — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:02:12 +0000

According to the demo on their siteyou can type on the e-paper screen using the Android keyboard on the touhscreen.

And of course you can use the android keyboard natively on the touchscreen, or an external usb keyboard on both.

By: jason

jason — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:00:05 +0000

After seeing the Microsoft Courier prototype, I think I’ll eventually carry something with a form factor like this instead of a phone most of the time… Maybe about half this size… Hopefully for my next purchase after the moto droid…

By: sammysunset

sammysunset — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:31:38 +0000

@Integgroll Well done :)

I think this device looks very appealing. I can see your issue with having two screens available when only one is needed could be a frustration, but I also think the potential for reading an eBook while surfing the net, listening to music, etc. would be really useful.

Imagine reading a book like War and Peace or the The Silmarillion and having a dictionary / Wikipedia / etc. open in the other screen so you can look up words you don’t understand, or locations you know nothing about? It could be very powerful.

Also — my question is: Does the 16-shades-of-grey ePaper side run on the same processor and memory as the Android side? If so, I can foresee some serious lag, but there is the potential of interacting with the eBook side using the Android side (meaning you could likely find a way to get an on-screen keyboard to work on either the eBook side or the Android side to interact with the other, giving you an ideal dual-screen-netbook format).

However, if the two sides are completely independent, then what are the specifications for either side? I don’t see a processor speed up there, and if both sides are independent, then can you *just* run the ePaper side and significantly increase battery life?

Questions, questions… at the end of the day, though, I think this is a great device!

By: Rob Jackson

Rob Jackson — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:04:45 +0000

good point ponman, I overlooked that.

By: ponman

ponman — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:43:38 +0000

Well, judging by the picture of the device on their comparison chart, the device is already opened to 270 degrees. If it goes to 270, one would imagine that 360 is supported.

By: johnkzin

johnkzin — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:22:30 +0000

They announced this one yesterday on engadget. I went and tracked down the vendor’s site, and even sent them a bunch of questions in email.

So far, it sounds like the e-paper can only be used with a stylus. If that’s the case, then you can’t use it as a “keyboard” for the LCD, unfortunately. That would be one of my two big changes/gripes.

The other one: Android’s web browser only does mobile versions of Google Apps. On a phone sized screen, no problem. But on a 10″ 1024×600 screen? No, I want a full web browser, with full Google Apps, and with Flash.

The other thing I would want is: a better VNC viewer client, that does full VNC password support when tunneling through ssh/ConnectBot.

I also hope it has video out, and will work with USB keyboards (it has 3 USB ports, but their page only mentions Bluetooth keyboards). An internal 3G option would be cool, but I’m actually happy enough with wifi.

Other than that, I’m actually quite excited about this one. I plan to shell out the money for it when it’s ready. Just wish it came in black :-)

Oh, and, about your dual screen concern. The hinge looks a lot like the Nokia E90 hinge… which, as far as I recall, could bend all the way back upon itself. Maybe you can do that with this device, folding one screen back (instead of sliding it under), somehow telling the device which screen to turn off, and then use it just like a single-screen tablet. Though, that’d be a bit of a thick tablet, but still.

Here’s hoping this one releases, and on time! If it has everything I want, I’m going to be much more interested in this than an Apple tablet … and they’ll even have beat Microsoft to market with something akin to the Courier concept.