Comments on: Google Accused Of Hypocrasy, Andy Rubin Fires Back http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/ Android Phone News, Rumors, Reviews, Apps, Forums & More! Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:51:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Land-of-Mordor http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-43158 Land-of-Mordor Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:59:31 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-43158 #1 "...really hoped the EU would have done something for us by now, like they have done with Microsoft and Intel, but some reason Apple keep getting away with it..." It's simple, Apple in EU is the smallest piece of pie. That's why EU firts go after Microsoft and then Intel. May be in the future there'll be a nice present for Apple from the UE, but there's no official complaints and no company have apply to. Here in the UE we have a technical authority that check the devices (UE stamps you can see printed or pasted on the device) and another authority that takes care about competition rules. Also, there're another authorities at UE countries with the same role. It's differente that in USA where you have the same authority taking care of everything about communications. And, finally, sorry for my bad english ;) #1 “…really hoped the EU would have done something for us by now, like they have done with Microsoft and Intel, but some reason Apple keep getting away with it…”

It’s simple, Apple in EU is the smallest piece of pie. That’s why EU firts go after Microsoft and then Intel. May be in the future there’ll be a nice present for Apple from the UE, but there’s no official complaints and no company have apply to.

Here in the UE we have a technical authority that check the devices (UE stamps you can see printed or pasted on the device) and another authority that takes care about competition rules. Also, there’re another authorities at UE countries with the same role. It’s differente that in USA where you have the same authority taking care of everything about communications.

And, finally, sorry for my bad english ;)

]]> By: G http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-43038 G Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:06:41 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-43038 What happened to Skype? I love skype... why do they not have a full version? Also I cant even use there half version in Canada. I will swap to Google Voice when it comes to Canada. What happened to Skype?
I love skype… why do they not have a full version?
Also I cant even use there half version in Canada.
I will swap to Google Voice when it comes to Canada.

]]> By: Evan S. http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42971 Evan S. Sun, 23 Aug 2009 17:41:58 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42971 " — “AT&T was not asked about the matter by Apple at any time, nor did it offer any view one way or the other,” — Notice how they word this? Sure, Apple may not have specifically asked AT&T, “Hey, is this app ok?”… but it says nothing about AT&T and Apple having an agreement on a set of rules that apps had to follow. Why else would Apple care? Its not like making apps that duplicate features cuts in to Apple’s profit… If anything it makes them more money (if the app isn’t free) because they get a cut of the revenue." That could be true, but I'm sort of leaning the other way. Apple has always done things like this. Ipods locked up, batteries unchangable, etc... So I can believe it if AT&T wasn't involved, but yes, as you said, AT&T no doubt makes money off apps that are sold (At least a small profit), so you'd think they may have had a say SOMEWHERE... Although, if anything, they should have been in favor of it... Hmm... ”
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“AT&T was not asked about the matter by Apple at any time, nor did it offer any view one way or the other,”
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Notice how they word this? Sure, Apple may not have specifically asked AT&T, “Hey, is this app ok?”… but it says nothing about AT&T and Apple having an agreement on a set of rules that apps had to follow. Why else would Apple care? Its not like making apps that duplicate features cuts in to Apple’s profit… If anything it makes them more money (if the app isn’t free) because they get a cut of the revenue.”

That could be true, but I’m sort of leaning the other way. Apple has always done things like this. Ipods locked up, batteries unchangable, etc… So I can believe it if AT&T wasn’t involved, but yes, as you said, AT&T no doubt makes money off apps that are sold (At least a small profit), so you’d think they may have had a say SOMEWHERE… Although, if anything, they should have been in favor of it… Hmm…

]]> By: Todd A. http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42721 Todd A. Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:02:10 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42721 Those of us who are "long enough in the tooth" to remember Apple as THE personal computer powerhouse (i.e. Apple //e) recognize how Apple's uber-proprietary behavior is now going to cost them their dominant position in smartphones. Only real difference is that Apple essentially lost a smaller U.S. personal computer market to the more open Microsoft/IBM platform back then. And, today, Apple's going to lose a WORLDWIDE smartphone market to Google. Twenty five years later, and they still haven't learned how to hold on to a virtual monopoly. That being said, I still like Apple, also. Those of us who are “long enough in the tooth” to remember Apple as THE personal computer powerhouse (i.e. Apple //e) recognize how Apple’s uber-proprietary behavior is now going to cost them their dominant position in smartphones. Only real difference is that Apple essentially lost a smaller U.S. personal computer market to the more open Microsoft/IBM platform back then. And, today, Apple’s going to lose a WORLDWIDE smartphone market to Google. Twenty five years later, and they still haven’t learned how to hold on to a virtual monopoly. That being said, I still like Apple, also.

]]> By: Shane Isbell http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42719 Shane Isbell Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:47:28 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42719 Google does have a non-compete clause in its Market agreement, which precludes stocking of applications that sell digital content. They aren't completely clean in this. Shane Google does have a non-compete clause in its Market agreement, which precludes stocking of applications that sell digital content. They aren’t completely clean in this.

Shane

]]> By: mikeeeee http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42700 mikeeeee Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:21:42 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42700 i've asked numerous people and all have replied that UMA capabilities have to be baked in at the foundry. i live in a no coverage area and i would kill for a UMA capable android. talk about tying it all together. when one arrives on the scene i'll pick up cans if i have to in order to buy it. give it time. i waited 3 years for UMA, another little while longer is no biggie. i’ve asked numerous people and all have replied that UMA capabilities have to be baked in at the foundry.

i live in a no coverage area and i would kill for a UMA capable android.

talk about tying it all together.

when one arrives on the scene i’ll pick up cans if i have to in order to buy it.

give it time.

i waited 3 years for UMA, another little while longer is no biggie.

]]> By: InRSoul http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42589 InRSoul Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:40:12 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42589 I try to tell all my friends to steer away from Apple since they are becoming more and more like Microsoft. They grabed the industry with the iPod, then tried to seal it with the iPhone. created itunes where you can't share Tunes with other devices. Apple talks down on Microsoft yet in another platform (Mobile devices) they are the "Microsoft". I try to tell all my friends to steer away from Apple since they are becoming more and more like Microsoft. They grabed the industry with the iPod, then tried to seal it with the iPhone. created itunes where you can’t share Tunes with other devices. Apple talks down on Microsoft yet in another platform (Mobile devices) they are the “Microsoft”.

]]> By: Daniel http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42581 Daniel Sat, 22 Aug 2009 04:20:05 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42581 --- “AT&T was not asked about the matter by Apple at any time, nor did it offer any view one way or the other,” --- Notice how they word this? Sure, Apple may not have specifically asked AT&T, "Hey, is this app ok?"... but it says nothing about AT&T and Apple having an agreement on a set of rules that apps had to follow. Why else would Apple care? Its not like making apps that duplicate features cuts in to Apple's profit... If anything it makes them more money (if the app isn't free) because they get a cut of the revenue. —
“AT&T was not asked about the matter by Apple at any time, nor did it offer any view one way or the other,”
—

Notice how they word this? Sure, Apple may not have specifically asked AT&T, “Hey, is this app ok?”… but it says nothing about AT&T and Apple having an agreement on a set of rules that apps had to follow. Why else would Apple care? Its not like making apps that duplicate features cuts in to Apple’s profit… If anything it makes them more money (if the app isn’t free) because they get a cut of the revenue.

]]> By: SDscorch http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42566 SDscorch Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:17:09 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42566 europe has a pretty good cell phone system europe has a pretty good cell phone system

]]> By: juan http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42564 juan Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:14:26 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42564 Let me just say.........!!!! That's right Apple android. Is here So in good words f@*# bitch.....you can stop the unstopple bitch....!!!! Let me just say………!!!! That’s right Apple android. Is here
So in good words f@*# bitch…..you can stop the unstopple bitch….!!!!

]]> By: DL http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42548 DL Sat, 22 Aug 2009 02:27:43 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42548 If the FCC was really looking out for the consumer, we wouldn't have these long contracts for services. Example, an iPhone does not cost $600 to make, but that's what you have to pay to get one out of contract. Another reason why Apple has such a high profit margin. The FCC really just looks out for other people with money If the FCC was really looking out for the consumer, we wouldn’t have these long contracts for services. Example, an iPhone does not cost $600 to make, but that’s what you have to pay to get one out of contract. Another reason why Apple has such a high profit margin. The FCC really just looks out for other people with money

]]> By: SDscorch http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42538 SDscorch Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:59:01 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42538 anyone who finds typos... can KEEP THEM!heh;) .. regarding the FCC - i've never really considered it but.. i actually agree! i think the FCC should keep their noses outta apple's bizniss! why? cuz... if apple wants to slit their own throat, let'em! .. so apple is hurtling off the road - fine! the advantage of having android will make itself clear in due time - android hasn't even really begun to fight yet .. let the market decide anyone who finds typos… can KEEP THEM!heh;)
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regarding the FCC – i’ve never really considered it but.. i actually agree! i think the FCC should keep their noses outta apple’s bizniss! why? cuz… if apple wants to slit their own throat, let’em!
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so apple is hurtling off the road – fine! the advantage of having android will make itself clear in due time – android hasn’t even really begun to fight yet
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let the market decide

]]> By: Rob Jackson http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42532 Rob Jackson Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:34:21 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42532 Thanks James Jones :) I actually don't use spell check but definitely should. I'm always in such a rush to post. It seems like 2 big complaints are (1) We want timely news ASAP, (2) We want perfect grammar. Those things work against each other so I sacrifice grammar for time, hoping you appreciate it gets to you quicker and can understand what I'm saying. Of course if I knew where the spell check button was it would only take a few extra seconds... ;) Thanks James Jones :) I actually don’t use spell check but definitely should. I’m always in such a rush to post. It seems like 2 big complaints are (1) We want timely news ASAP, (2) We want perfect grammar. Those things work against each other so I sacrifice grammar for time, hoping you appreciate it gets to you quicker and can understand what I’m saying.

Of course if I knew where the spell check button was it would only take a few extra seconds… ;)

]]> By: james Jones http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42525 james Jones Sat, 22 Aug 2009 01:11:54 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42525 Total BURN on the spelling.... but give Rob a break, we all rely on technology and spell check too much. It happens to all of us once in a while, but most of us don't have a website with 1,000,000 hits a month. Contrats, Phandroid. Total BURN on the spelling…. but give Rob a break, we all rely on technology and spell check too much. It happens to all of us once in a while, but most of us don’t have a website with 1,000,000 hits a month. Contrats, Phandroid.

]]> By: David Freeman http://phandroid.com/2009/08/21/google-accused-of-hypocrasy-andy-rubin-fires-back/#comment-42511 David Freeman Sat, 22 Aug 2009 00:20:47 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=4706#comment-42511 Hi Rob. Pick one: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrasy hypocrasy The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above. 1. hypocrisy 2. hippocras 3. hypocorism 4. hypochlorous 5. hypodermis 6. hypodermal Hi Rob.

Pick one: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrasy

hypocrasy

The word you’ve entered isn’t in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above.

1. hypocrisy
2. hippocras
3. hypocorism
4. hypochlorous
5. hypodermis
6. hypodermal

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