Comments on: MicroUSB Becomes European Standard In 2010 http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/ Android Phone News, Rumors, Reviews, Apps, Forums & More! Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:22:28 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Steve http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-80926 Steve Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:03:29 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-80926 I don't understand the comment about these companies being "in the EU". I think only one and a half of this company list is EU. Moto, Qualcomm, Apple are all US, RIM is Canada, NEC, Sony are Japan and LG is Korea. I think it is only the Chinese that are missing. I don’t understand the comment about these companies being “in the EU”. I think only one and a half of this company list is EU.
Moto, Qualcomm, Apple are all US, RIM is Canada, NEC, Sony are Japan and LG is Korea. I think it is only the Chinese that are missing.

]]> By: stevenp http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-39580 stevenp Mon, 10 Aug 2009 22:08:39 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-39580 Jason, OK, here's a first-person report. The mini-usb connector gave out on my Blackberry Pearl just before 2 years of use. It was never abused, but that 500-cycle average is remarkably close to my real-life experience. The rest of the phone was in beautiful shape but it was rendered useless because the charging and data connections could not be made. Rather than try to buy and solder in a new connector, I upgraded to a BB 8900 with a micro-usb connector. I'm much more comfortable with it. It is narrower and definitely sturdier. (Having a PhD in materials engineering, I can easily see why the micro-usb connector should have a much longer average lifetime.) Jason, OK, here’s a first-person report. The mini-usb connector gave out on my Blackberry Pearl just before 2 years of use. It was never abused, but that 500-cycle average is remarkably close to my real-life experience. The rest of the phone was in beautiful shape but it was rendered useless because the charging and data connections could not be made. Rather than try to buy and solder in a new connector, I upgraded to a BB 8900 with a micro-usb connector. I’m much more comfortable with it. It is narrower and definitely sturdier. (Having a PhD in materials engineering, I can easily see why the micro-usb connector should have a much longer average lifetime.)

]]> By: PJ http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-32225 PJ Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:31:16 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-32225 You neglected to mention that China mandated mini-USB cell phone chargers back in 2007. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Mobile_device_charger_standards . Still good news, though! You neglected to mention that China mandated mini-USB cell phone chargers back in 2007. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Mobile_device_charger_standards . Still good news, though!

]]> By: Craig http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-32174 Craig Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:58:52 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-32174 More cable standards...yawn. Give me wireless charging/data standards! More cable standards…yawn. Give me wireless charging/data standards!

]]> By: RM http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-32109 RM Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:10:58 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-32109 This is so long overdue. I think (hope) that the U.S. will tag along by default. After all, if HTC or someone builds a phone around a slim microUSB power adapter for the European market, they're certainly not going to easily change it to something else for the American market. Anyway, mini/micro, I don't really care. Mini is more prevalent at the moment, but micro can surpass it with an industry push. And, as someone else said, I just love how I never feel far away from a power connector with the G1. This is so long overdue.

I think (hope) that the U.S. will tag along by default. After all, if HTC or someone builds a phone around a slim microUSB power adapter for the European market, they’re certainly not going to easily change it to something else for the American market.

Anyway, mini/micro, I don’t really care. Mini is more prevalent at the moment, but micro can surpass it with an industry push.

And, as someone else said, I just love how I never feel far away from a power connector with the G1.

]]> By: Jason D http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-32095 Jason D Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:25:22 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-32095 Ian, as a rule, wikipedia is a great resource for finding out what happened in episode 16 of "Lost" but as to more important issues it rates the same as "my best-friend's, cousin's, sister-in-law said..." If you want to use Wikipedia, I'd use the bibliography links to look at the source material for evidence. Ian, as a rule, wikipedia is a great resource for finding out what happened in episode 16 of “Lost” but as to more important issues it rates the same as “my best-friend’s, cousin’s, sister-in-law said…” If you want to use Wikipedia, I’d use the bibliography links to look at the source material for evidence.

]]> By: John Thacker http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-32084 John Thacker Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:59:05 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-32084 This has already been the case with the majority of new phones in the last 18 months. Every new phone I've seen has been either miniUSB or microUSB. My phone I bought last year is microUSB. It's becoming an official standard because it was already an unofficial one. You can read articles from 2007 talking about this. This has already been the case with the majority of new phones in the last 18 months. Every new phone I’ve seen has been either miniUSB or microUSB. My phone I bought last year is microUSB.

It’s becoming an official standard because it was already an unofficial one. You can read articles from 2007 talking about this.

]]> By: Jeremy http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-32076 Jeremy Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:47:28 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-32076 Yeah, I agree, miniUSB is lousy, I have terrible connections and have to have my phone and cable just right to charge or data connect with my computer. microUSB is much sturdier. Also I imagine, even if the US doesn't make microUSB STANDARD like in the EU, it probably won't matter because the phone manufacturers who are entered in the agreement aren't going to make the same model phones with different connectors if they don't have to, so if they are already making it microUSB for EU, then we'll probably get the same thing in the US even if it's not "standard" here. Yeah, I agree, miniUSB is lousy, I have terrible connections and have to have my phone and cable just right to charge or data connect with my computer. microUSB is much sturdier. Also I imagine, even if the US doesn’t make microUSB STANDARD like in the EU, it probably won’t matter because the phone manufacturers who are entered in the agreement aren’t going to make the same model phones with different connectors if they don’t have to, so if they are already making it microUSB for EU, then we’ll probably get the same thing in the US even if it’s not “standard” here.

]]> By: Ian http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-32060 Ian Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:13:05 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-32060 You say that "... I actually prefer the MiniUSB. It just seems easier to connect and sturdier..." Not so! As per Wikipedia: "The newer Micro-USB receptacles are designed to allow up to 10,000 cycles of insertion and removal between the receptacle and plug, compared to 500 for the standard USB and Mini-USB receptacle." As it is, every time I plug in my G1 I cringe, knowing that another 1/500th of its life has gone... Also, microUSB enables slimmer phones (which is why it was invented); surely a good thing. You say that

“… I actually prefer the MiniUSB. It just seems easier to connect and sturdier…”

Not so! As per Wikipedia:

“The newer Micro-USB receptacles are designed to allow up to 10,000 cycles of insertion and removal between the receptacle and plug, compared to 500 for the standard USB and Mini-USB receptacle.”

As it is, every time I plug in my G1 I cringe, knowing that another 1/500th of its life has gone…

Also, microUSB enables slimmer phones (which is why it was invented); surely a good thing.

]]> By: Gigi http://phandroid.com/2009/06/30/microusb-becomes-european-standard-in-2010/#comment-32059 Gigi Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:02:11 +0000 http://phandroid.com/?p=3731#comment-32059 Pick a standard and stick with it. I didn't realize how important (and convenient) it is to have a mini-USB phone until my G1. I never fear running low on battery while away from home. Everyone has a mini-usb cable these days! That being said, if we change to using micro-usb as the standard, it would be great if it becomes as widespread as the mini-usb is now. I love using devices that all can share the connector cables. I'm looking at your iPod! Get with the program. Pick a standard and stick with it. I didn’t realize how important (and convenient) it is to have a mini-USB phone until my G1. I never fear running low on battery while away from home. Everyone has a mini-usb cable these days! That being said, if we change to using micro-usb as the standard, it would be great if it becomes as widespread as the mini-usb is now.

I love using devices that all can share the connector cables. I’m looking at your iPod! Get with the program.

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