Comments on: HTC France: We’ll Always Have More Flagship Products On WinMo

By: Damn Frenchies

Damn Frenchies — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:37:24 +0000

You guys really dont give up on translating, do you? I figured that you would have surrendered long ago.

By: krissou

krissou — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:54:44 +0000

Many french readers here LOL!

By: Nik

Nik — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:05:38 +0000

I think I’ve found the original interview….
Oh, wait, so has everyone else!
Guys, let’s stop with the ‘I found it, I am french, and it said…’. We get the message!

By: krissou

krissou — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:52:06 +0000

Hi,

I think I’ve found the interview of Frédéric Tassy, responsible for HTC France&Benelux where he mentioned that:
http://www.mobinaute.com/281030-frederic-tassy-htc-2009-android.html
“Nous aurons de plus toujours des produits phare sous Windows Mobile”

Don’t be afraid by that “always” as it means more “we will continue to propose WinMo products…” than a “forever” meaning.

By: Kearns

Kearns — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:14:03 +0000

The word he used is certainly always, but he didn’t say ALL of their products, just the “flagship” (or “lighthouse” if translated directly) products. Sounds like he expects that the Windows product will always shine more brightly, perhaps he hasn’t actually seen Android in person…

By: zefi

zefi — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:00:52 +0000

I’d rather DOS my way through the rest of this world then press “start”.

Yeah, and geeks rule the world.

By: jedi

jedi — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:27:07 +0000

I just read the french original interview. The traduction

HTC will “always [have] more flagship products on Windows Mobile,”

is not exactly what he said. A better traduction would be

“[For HTC, 2009 is the year of the beginning of Android...] Furthermore, we will always have some flagship products on Windows Mobile”

Notice the “some”. He didn’t say more products on Windows Mobile, he only said that they will not give up on Microsoft.

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:34:46 +0000

Ok, I live in Belgium and speak French.

The exact sentence is : “Nous aurons de plus toujours des produits phare sous Windows Mobile.” which means “Furthermore we will still have flagship products on Windows Mobile”. Quite different, huh !

BTW your article is a bit misleading : Frédéric Tassy is the head of HTC France and HTC Benelux.

Take care !

By: Raphael Goulais

Raphael Goulais — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:17:17 +0000

I’ll explain more after a visit to an online dictionnary : “plus” in french is more, but “de plus” means “likewise” or “moreover”. So this one is also badly translated. “toujours” means “always” but also “still” or “yet”.

So instead of “have always more flagship”, we have “moreover, we still have flagship”.

By: Adrien

Adrien — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:15:51 +0000

Hi Guys,

I’m a French reader of Phandroid, and Google’s automated translation isn’t quite correct there.
It means more something like this :
“Moreover, we’ll always have some FlagShip products running WiMo.”

the “more” comes wrongly from the “moreover” translation

Hope that helps.

By: Olivier

Olivier — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:15:15 +0000

Good News! :-)
I’m French and I think I’ve found the sentence:
“Nous aurons de plus toujours des produits phare sous Windows Mobile” which does not mean what you think at all.
“toujours” means always but not in this particular context.
Here, the sentence means more something like:
“Moreover, we will still have some flagship products on winmo”.

By: Raphael Goulais

Raphael Goulais — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 08:07:40 +0000

Hi Rob,

I’m french, so I went on the original quote : “Nous aurons de plus toujours des produits phare sous Windows Mobile.”. This “toujours” must not be read as “always” but more like “still”. He’s speaking of the 2009 and 2010 years and the success of Android for these years. He says they still have Windows mobiles in their catalog, and that the HTC Touch is their best seller.

You’ve been right thinking the word “always” was not accurately translated. Overall, this interview is positive in regard to Android.

By: Neil

Neil — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:28:22 +0000

I couldn’t understand whether this story is about France or Benelux.

By: Gert

Gert — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 06:52:29 +0000

My French is a little rusty, but I believe Mr. Tassy said “On top of that we will always have flagship products on Windows Mobile.”

Not quite the same message as the one conveyed by the automatic translation…

By: Rob

Rob — Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:24:02 +0000

I would, and I can’t stand Apple, The iPhone OR AT&T, but I would sleep with all 3 to stay away from anything Windows.