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	<title>Comments on: T-Mobile and Google Don&#8217;t Play Nice, Hate to be Tethered</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-29775</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly enough in the UK T-Mobile state on the FAQs:


Q: Can I use my mobile to connect my laptop to the internet?

A: You can if you&#039;ve signed up for web&#039;n&#039;walk Plus or Max. It&#039;s not an option if you&#039;ve got the regular version where you pay an extra £7.50 per month on top of your mobile plan

http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=faqs&amp;cat=SERVICES

So certainly in the UK the &quot;Can&#039;t go it because it is against the T&amp;Cs&quot; is false in some cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough in the UK T-Mobile state on the FAQs:</p>
<p>Q: Can I use my mobile to connect my laptop to the internet?</p>
<p>A: You can if you&rsquo;ve signed up for web&rsquo;n'walk Plus or Max. It&rsquo;s not an option if you&rsquo;ve got the regular version where you pay an extra &pound;7.50 per month on top of your mobile plan</p>
<p><a href="http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=faqs&amp;cat=SERVICES" rel="nofollow">http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/help-and-support/index?page=faqs&amp;cat=SERVICES</a></p>
<p>So certainly in the UK the &ldquo;Can&rsquo;t go it because it is against the T&amp;Cs&rdquo; is false in some cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Android Staff</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-27156</link>
		<dc:creator>Android Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with Jon - this phone has so much potential but really falls short in too many areas to count - really disappointing. Only good feature is google apps. Will be buying the iPhone when it upgrades its chip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Jon &ndash; this phone has so much potential but really falls short in too many areas to count &ndash; really disappointing. Only good feature is google apps. Will be buying the iPhone when it upgrades its chip.</p>
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		<title>By: KimberlySy</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-24414</link>
		<dc:creator>KimberlySy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also on the flipside of the issue... Other people want to tether to wifi on a laptop. So instead of the laptop recieving the phone&#039;s signal, the phone recieves the laptop&#039;s. Pretty cool right? Isn&#039;t this okay? Righhhhht. So, with the numbers again... = ) #1) The G1 won&#039;t/can&#039;t work without a data plan... so it&#039;s either you have the 25 or the 35. All details. Now, so it can be assumed that all &#039;legally&#039; connected phones have internet capabilities... including wifi. #2)Wait, what was the problem again? Oh, right wifi. Well if you don&#039;t have a wifi router... then go get one. CAn&#039;t afford one? Use 3G! You&#039;re paying for it! don&#039;t have that? Stick with EDGE!(PS im not yelling lol, just emphasizing and i also love my punctuation... i overuse them) EDGE has pretty decent speeds in my area. Good luck! I am PRO FREE TETHER! Difference between me adn you is that I&#039;m for the legal kind. We&#039;ll have to wait for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also on the flipside of the issue&hellip; Other people want to tether to wifi on a laptop. So instead of the laptop recieving the phone&rsquo;s signal, the phone recieves the laptop&rsquo;s. Pretty cool right? Isn&rsquo;t this okay? Righhhhht. So, with the numbers again&hellip; = ) #1) The G1 won&rsquo;t/can&rsquo;t work without a data plan&hellip; so it&rsquo;s either you have the 25 or the 35. All details. Now, so it can be assumed that all &lsquo;legally&rsquo; connected phones have internet capabilities&hellip; including wifi. #2)Wait, what was the problem again? Oh, right wifi. Well if you don&rsquo;t have a wifi router&hellip; then go get one. CAn&rsquo;t afford one? Use 3G! You&rsquo;re paying for it! don&rsquo;t have that? Stick with EDGE!(PS im not yelling lol, just emphasizing and i also love my punctuation&hellip; i overuse them) EDGE has pretty decent speeds in my area. Good luck! I am PRO FREE TETHER! Difference between me adn you is that I&rsquo;m for the legal kind. We&rsquo;ll have to wait for that.</p>
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		<title>By: KimberlySy</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-24410</link>
		<dc:creator>KimberlySy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 00:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As stated before, PDA Net has a tethering app you can download aswell. 

But really, come on, unless you&#039;re a power user, you really don&#039;t need this... and if you want it... apps like PDA Net are available outside of the market. And, if you haven&#039;t figured this out yet, then you probably aren&#039;t a power user. 

Im not bashing. I&#039;d love to have wifi on my lap top. Or 3G. But, the risks are too high. 1)the only apps available are 3rd party, so ur open to risks. 2)if too many people tether a limit or hold on unlimited usage with be put in place. No one wants that. And, if the access to this was made more available, more people would use it. Who wouldn&#039;t? 3)if you have wifi on your phone... or 3G, then why would you need to use your laptop? Need email... it&#039;s there. Need word docs... viewability is present. Now, some might say they need to edit documents for &quot;business&quot; (sure) Well, there is an app now that allows you to edit documents on all office programs. For a price... Need internet? Sky&#039;s the limit with great speeds. 

I know the laptop is better... But, unless you&#039;re desperate enough (I mean ROOT desperate) It&#039;s not worth the headache that would come if you&#039;re caught. This is T-mobile we&#039;re talking about here. You&#039;ll either get slapped with an outrageous bill or a cut/dcrease in data usage.

They charge us 35$ a month. Trust me, they&#039;re more than willing to take more. 

G1 IS THE BEST! LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As stated before, PDA Net has a tethering app you can download aswell. </p>
<p>But really, come on, unless you&rsquo;re a power user, you really don&rsquo;t need this&hellip; and if you want it&hellip; apps like PDA Net are available outside of the market. And, if you haven&rsquo;t figured this out yet, then you probably aren&rsquo;t a power user. </p>
<p>Im not bashing. I&rsquo;d love to have wifi on my lap top. Or 3G. But, the risks are too high. 1)the only apps available are 3rd party, so ur open to risks. 2)if too many people tether a limit or hold on unlimited usage with be put in place. No one wants that. And, if the access to this was made more available, more people would use it. Who wouldn&rsquo;t? 3)if you have wifi on your phone&hellip; or 3G, then why would you need to use your laptop? Need email&hellip; it&rsquo;s there. Need word docs&hellip; viewability is present. Now, some might say they need to edit documents for &ldquo;business&rdquo; (sure) Well, there is an app now that allows you to edit documents on all office programs. For a price&hellip; Need internet? Sky&rsquo;s the limit with great speeds. </p>
<p>I know the laptop is better&hellip; But, unless you&rsquo;re desperate enough (I mean ROOT desperate) It&rsquo;s not worth the headache that would come if you&rsquo;re caught. This is T-mobile we&rsquo;re talking about here. You&rsquo;ll either get slapped with an outrageous bill or a cut/dcrease in data usage.</p>
<p>They charge us 35$ a month. Trust me, they&rsquo;re more than willing to take more. </p>
<p>G1 IS THE BEST! LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Tethering Apps Are Back, Not With T-Mobile &#124; Android Phone Fans</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17434</link>
		<dc:creator>Tethering Apps Are Back, Not With T-Mobile &#124; Android Phone Fans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can be accepted!&#8221; roadblock. Recently, the Andwebz have been inundated by news that Google has blacklisted the tethering apps available in the Market. Following this news, Google has now restored the tethering apps to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can be accepted!&rdquo; roadblock. Recently, the Andwebz have been inundated by news that Google has blacklisted the tethering apps available in the Market. Following this news, Google has now restored the tethering apps to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17160</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jason... this is my 3rd G1... all of that rage wasn&#039;t unwarranted... i find ti hard to believe that all three of my handsets were defective... the first one would only last 1.5 hrs before dying... the second would freeze and power off/restart on its own for no reason... and this one has all the probs stated above... i think it&#039;s just the handset... if i switch it again i will lose all of my apps, some of which have switched to paid only versions... i might just have to do that tho... thanx for ur advice


@Mime... u seem to have taken personal offense to my comments... i never mentioned anything about trying to look cool... i bought the g1 for its potential, it hasn&#039;t lived up to that potential after six months, but it&#039;s still early... i use this site as an avenue to voice my opinions and critiques bcuz i refuse to have and pay for a sub-par phone when there are more knowledgeable/influential people that can bring about some change, or at least offer some advice...

furthermore, i dont know how to root my phone, im a casual user and all the geek elitist crap won&#039;t translate to mainstream success for the g1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason&hellip; this is my 3rd G1&hellip; all of that rage wasn&rsquo;t unwarranted&hellip; i find ti hard to believe that all three of my handsets were defective&hellip; the first one would only last 1.5 hrs before dying&hellip; the second would freeze and power off/restart on its own for no reason&hellip; and this one has all the probs stated above&hellip; i think it&rsquo;s just the handset&hellip; if i switch it again i will lose all of my apps, some of which have switched to paid only versions&hellip; i might just have to do that tho&hellip; thanx for ur advice</p>
<p>@Mime&hellip; u seem to have taken personal offense to my comments&hellip; i never mentioned anything about trying to look cool&hellip; i bought the g1 for its potential, it hasn&rsquo;t lived up to that potential after six months, but it&rsquo;s still early&hellip; i use this site as an avenue to voice my opinions and critiques bcuz i refuse to have and pay for a sub-par phone when there are more knowledgeable/influential people that can bring about some change, or at least offer some advice&hellip;</p>
<p>furthermore, i dont know how to root my phone, im a casual user and all the geek elitist crap won&rsquo;t translate to mainstream success for the g1</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17140</link>
		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No because wifi doesn&#039;t use yuor service provider 3g, egprs, gprs does and they don&#039;t want you tieing up the line basically is why they don&#039;t want you teathering</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No because wifi doesn&rsquo;t use yuor service provider 3g, egprs, gprs does and they don&rsquo;t want you tieing up the line basically is why they don&rsquo;t want you teathering</p>
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		<title>By: B00MER</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17136</link>
		<dc:creator>B00MER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDANet has a tethering app still, its not in the market but can load it offline, its beta and has some bugs bug works over wifi or 3g...

http://www.molotovbliss.com/blog/android-os-g1-sdk/android-g1-tethering/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDANet has a tethering app still, its not in the market but can load it offline, its beta and has some bugs bug works over wifi or 3g&hellip;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.molotovbliss.com/blog/android-os-g1-sdk/android-g1-tethering/" rel="nofollow">http://www.molotovbliss.com/blog/android-os-g1-sdk/android-g1-tethering/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marly</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17135</link>
		<dc:creator>Marly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Removing the apps is pointless. If you have root, then that means you know where to get the app and how to install it.

One thing removing the app does do, is prevent the noobs from wondering what the heck a tether is and call T-Mobile to get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Removing the apps is pointless. If you have root, then that means you know where to get the app and how to install it.</p>
<p>One thing removing the app does do, is prevent the noobs from wondering what the heck a tether is and call T-Mobile to get it.</p>
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		<title>By: mime</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17134</link>
		<dc:creator>mime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon

root your phone and then you&#039;ll have some must have apps.
also ah Jason has a point, i have no problems with my SD, your phone or your card is faulty i&#039;d say.
as for your other complaints, why did you get it if you thought it was so ugly? should have gone with something cooler so you can look cool right.. cause that&#039;s what we all want out of our devices.. to look cool:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon</p>
<p>root your phone and then you&#8217;ll have some must have apps.<br />
also ah Jason has a point, i have no problems with my SD, your phone or your card is faulty i&#8217;d say.<br />
as for your other complaints, why did you get it if you thought it was so ugly? should have gone with something cooler so you can look cool right.. cause that&#8217;s what we all want out of our devices.. to look cool:D</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17131</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started doing my homework last night in anticipation of my contract being up in November with Verizon, but right now I don&#039;t see any real compelling reason to switch carriers and phones. T Mo doesn&#039;t really give much incentive to change with their heavy handed, IPhone like tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started doing my homework last night in anticipation of my contract being up in November with Verizon, but right now I don&rsquo;t see any real compelling reason to switch carriers and phones. T Mo doesn&rsquo;t really give much incentive to change with their heavy handed, IPhone like tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: Android WiFi VoIP with Sipdroid &#124; Android Phone Fans</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17114</link>
		<dc:creator>Android WiFi VoIP with Sipdroid &#124; Android Phone Fans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] there ARE still a bunch of question marks. First off is the fact that this morning, we learned Google banned tethering apps from the market. And while a VoIP app using WiFi isn&#8217;t related to tethering it DOES have something in common: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] there ARE still a bunch of question marks. First off is the fact that this morning, we learned Google banned tethering apps from the market. And while a VoIP app using WiFi isn&rsquo;t related to tethering it DOES have something in common: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Miller</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17113</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DAnny:  They&#039;re making you mothers against drunk driving?  That would piss me off, too!

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DAnny:  They&rsquo;re making you mothers against drunk driving?  That would piss me off, too!</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: DAnny</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17111</link>
		<dc:creator>DAnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>t-mobile is makeing me madd
i just want to get the Android just for the apps TOO !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>t-mobile is makeing me madd<br />
i just want to get the Android just for the apps TOO !!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/03/31/t-mobile-and-google-dont-play-nice-hate-to-be-tethered/#comment-17101</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, while I sympathize with your complaints, it sounds like you have a defective unit.  If it&#039;s not reading your SD card, there&#039;s a problem with your phone.  Considering the rest of your complaints, it&#039;s not that hard to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, while I sympathize with your complaints, it sounds like you have a defective unit.  If it&rsquo;s not reading your SD card, there&rsquo;s a problem with your phone.  Considering the rest of your complaints, it&rsquo;s not that hard to believe.</p>
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