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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-230679</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 02:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so if im right if i down load a app thats not free and store in to my sd card return it reinstall it back to the phone from my sd card i shouldnt have to pay for the app?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so if im right if i down load a app thats not free and store in to my sd card return it reinstall it back to the phone from my sd card i shouldnt have to pay for the app?</p>
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		<title>By: Tat</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-124672</link>
		<dc:creator>Tat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 09:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there more stupid.. who wants download something so cheap!! Android programs are so cheap, why users do break protection? Google need to more security. 
In a couple of months I study it and send to Google, one email. All help are apreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there more stupid.. who wants download something so cheap!! Android programs are so cheap, why users do break protection? Google need to more security.<br />
In a couple of months I study it and send to Google, one email. All help are apreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Rueben Butor</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-106354</link>
		<dc:creator>Rueben Butor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Download Iron Man 2 Torrent</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-95786</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, most Android users won&#039;t donate unless they HAVE to pay for an app. Maybe devs could all start supporting their free versions with ads and make people pay for the ads to be removed? Unless I don&#039;t understand how the ad-supporting system works (and I probably don&#039;t or else everyone would have done this already), that&#039;d work out for everyone.

But again, even if Google implements a security system on the Market, they&#039;ll still get pirated, like how you can put Installous on a jailbroken iPhone and get all the apps out there for free. I&#039;d argue that it&#039;s EASIER on the iPhone; with Android you actually have to either buy and return the app yourself or hunt down the .apk online. With the iPhone you have an app that searches websites that serve as databases for the apps; it takes all of two minutes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, most Android users won&rsquo;t donate unless they HAVE to pay for an app. Maybe devs could all start supporting their free versions with ads and make people pay for the ads to be removed? Unless I don&rsquo;t understand how the ad-supporting system works (and I probably don&rsquo;t or else everyone would have done this already), that&rsquo;d work out for everyone.</p>
<p>But again, even if Google implements a security system on the Market, they&rsquo;ll still get pirated, like how you can put Installous on a jailbroken iPhone and get all the apps out there for free. I&rsquo;d argue that it&rsquo;s EASIER on the iPhone; with Android you actually have to either buy and return the app yourself or hunt down the .apk online. With the iPhone you have an app that searches websites that serve as databases for the apps; it takes all of two minutes!</p>
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		<title>By: don juan</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-92924</link>
		<dc:creator>don juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free + donate doesn&#039;t work for developers that are trying to do this full time.  People just don&#039;t donate.  And if the developer can&#039;t spend time working on the app, then they can&#039;t keep up with customer support emails and Android OS updates and the app quality suffers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free + donate doesn&rsquo;t work for developers that are trying to do this full time.  People just don&rsquo;t donate.  And if the developer can&rsquo;t spend time working on the app, then they can&rsquo;t keep up with customer support emails and Android OS updates and the app quality suffers.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam E</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-91619</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Developers should just make free &amp; donate versions... that&#039;s my opinion. But some already out there have ads in the free version only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developers should just make free &amp; donate versions&hellip; that&rsquo;s my opinion. But some already out there have ads in the free version only.</p>
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		<title>By: earl</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-88480</link>
		<dc:creator>earl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does work for paid apps because they are kept in i think data/private-folder. I was apauled by Google&#039;s stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does work for paid apps because they are kept in i think data/private-folder. I was apauled by Google&rsquo;s stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Buglione</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-83395</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew Buglione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad part is that this is almost as easy to do on the iPhone/iPod Touch thanks to jailbreaking. I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve never pirated anything, but it&#039;s really just horrible that it&#039;s as easy as it is to do so nowadays...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part is that this is almost as easy to do on the iPhone/iPod Touch thanks to jailbreaking. I can&rsquo;t say I&rsquo;ve never pirated anything, but it&rsquo;s really just horrible that it&rsquo;s as easy as it is to do so nowadays&hellip;</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-83286</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have developed several apps and have the same problem with some people downloading and then returning. We were able to identify patterns based on where these people were as identified by Google Checkout. Its frustrating. 

We&#039;re spending literally thousands of dollars for development and getting ripped off daily by about 15% of the people downloading. 
By not fixing this Google is encouraging us to take our marbles and go play on the Apple and Blackberry Application Markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have developed several apps and have the same problem with some people downloading and then returning. We were able to identify patterns based on where these people were as identified by Google Checkout. Its frustrating. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re spending literally thousands of dollars for development and getting ripped off daily by about 15% of the people downloading.<br />
By not fixing this Google is encouraging us to take our marbles and go play on the Apple and Blackberry Application Markets.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-32334</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a warning, you get what you pay for. If you download a rogue version of an APK, you really don&#039;t know what you are getting and you are putting all of your personal information at risk. It&#039;s very very simple to insert malicious logic into an existing APK and you would never know. Malicious hackers could hijack/wipe all of your personal data, such as contacts, emails etc. 

If you do not get the application from a trusted resource, you do not not what you are getting. The Android market guarantees legitimacy and safety. If you download an app from the market or developer, you know who to blame if something goes wrong.

Let&#039;s say you really are a cheap bastard and that 99 cents for that killer app just seems... well unnecessary, karma has a way of coming around and biting you in the butt. If something happens and all of your personal info is hijacked or wiped out, you only have yourself to blame.

In addition, passing around hacked applications while it will surely continue to happen, is only going to hurt the end-users in the long run. Developers will decide it&#039;s not worthwhile to develop for Android anymore, or make users jump through so many hoops it yields a migraine to anyone wanting to use the application.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a warning, you get what you pay for. If you download a rogue version of an APK, you really don&rsquo;t know what you are getting and you are putting all of your personal information at risk. It&rsquo;s very very simple to insert malicious logic into an existing APK and you would never know. Malicious hackers could hijack/wipe all of your personal data, such as contacts, emails etc. </p>
<p>If you do not get the application from a trusted resource, you do not not what you are getting. The Android market guarantees legitimacy and safety. If you download an app from the market or developer, you know who to blame if something goes wrong.</p>
<p>Let&rsquo;s say you really are a cheap bastard and that 99 cents for that killer app just seems&hellip; well unnecessary, karma has a way of coming around and biting you in the butt. If something happens and all of your personal info is hijacked or wiped out, you only have yourself to blame.</p>
<p>In addition, passing around hacked applications while it will surely continue to happen, is only going to hurt the end-users in the long run. Developers will decide it&rsquo;s not worthwhile to develop for Android anymore, or make users jump through so many hoops it yields a migraine to anyone wanting to use the application.</p>
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		<title>By: macho</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-15476</link>
		<dc:creator>macho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put videos on my phone g1 phone but i cant view any videos it says my phone doesn&#039;t support the file format ..what can i download to watch videos  ..is there an app for this..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put videos on my phone g1 phone but i cant view any videos it says my phone doesn&rsquo;t support the file format ..what can i download to watch videos  ..is there an app for this..</p>
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		<title>By: Jsn</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-15314</link>
		<dc:creator>Jsn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone have a quality &quot;How To Guide&quot; that they can share, so us with rooted G1s can rip an app?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone have a quality &ldquo;How To Guide&rdquo; that they can share, so us with rooted G1s can rip an app?</p>
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		<title>By: jmon</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-15057</link>
		<dc:creator>jmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok im not going to hack to apps cause well it just wrong... and for most useful things there is always a free alternative but there is one thing they could do to at least protect the market and that&#039;s make it to where you cant do refunds. which would suck and then only those willing to us torrents or whatever will be able to take advantage of this. but that comes with risk because of viruses &quot;even though it maybe small&quot; also i like to back up my apps and if they could find a way to stop that it would suck... say i want the new g3 or whatever is out in a year or so i could just up load the apps new my phone. there alot of cool honest things you could do with this. why does every one want something for nothing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok im not going to hack to apps cause well it just wrong&hellip; and for most useful things there is always a free alternative but there is one thing they could do to at least protect the market and that&rsquo;s make it to where you cant do refunds. which would suck and then only those willing to us torrents or whatever will be able to take advantage of this. but that comes with risk because of viruses &ldquo;even though it maybe small&rdquo; also i like to back up my apps and if they could find a way to stop that it would suck&hellip; say i want the new g3 or whatever is out in a year or so i could just up load the apps new my phone. there alot of cool honest things you could do with this. why does every one want something for nothing?</p>
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		<title>By: vendornet</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-14521</link>
		<dc:creator>vendornet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justo to tell you that google kicked us - developers from the paid apps. So if you have ADP1 you can not download a paid app or a copy protected app. So no stealing is able to be done, but users with rooted g1 can do it. So don`t blame us ;) We are sufferung the most...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justo to tell you that google kicked us &ndash; developers from the paid apps. So if you have ADP1 you can not download a paid app or a copy protected app. So no stealing is able to be done, but users with rooted g1 can do it. So don`t blame us ;) We are sufferung the most&hellip;</p>
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		<title>By: KaniS</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2009/02/20/android-market-hacked-kinda-sorta/#comment-14173</link>
		<dc:creator>KaniS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing Google can do about things like this.  Yeah, their protection is about as simple as it could get, but no matter how complicated they make it, as long as you have root access to the phone, you can install anything you want, including a completely new operating system, and your new operating system is going to be able to get at the raw apk or whatever method they use to store the app.  The phone has to be able to read the program and decrypt it, so as long as you can root it, disassemble the OS to find out how it&#039;s reading/decrypting the program, you&#039;ve got yourself a free app.
The only tactic that might slow down a pirate is to put a decryption &quot;black box&quot; in a hardware chip and sign the paid apps with a very long key only known to this black box.  But as soon as someone finds some way to get that key (which might take a little while, but probably not forever), everything&#039;s open again.  This method obviously doesn&#039;t protect any phones that are already out there.

As far as I&#039;m aware, pirates have broken every method of copy protection ever made, so the only real protection is honest people and maybe harsh punishments for law breakers.  Android apps are so cheap, I don&#039;t know why anyone would go to much trouble to steal them anyway.  Thus, I wouldn&#039;t get too up in arms about this hack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing Google can do about things like this.  Yeah, their protection is about as simple as it could get, but no matter how complicated they make it, as long as you have root access to the phone, you can install anything you want, including a completely new operating system, and your new operating system is going to be able to get at the raw apk or whatever method they use to store the app.  The phone has to be able to read the program and decrypt it, so as long as you can root it, disassemble the OS to find out how it&#8217;s reading/decrypting the program, you&#8217;ve got yourself a free app.<br />
The only tactic that might slow down a pirate is to put a decryption &#8220;black box&#8221; in a hardware chip and sign the paid apps with a very long key only known to this black box.  But as soon as someone finds some way to get that key (which might take a little while, but probably not forever), everything&#8217;s open again.  This method obviously doesn&#8217;t protect any phones that are already out there.</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m aware, pirates have broken every method of copy protection ever made, so the only real protection is honest people and maybe harsh punishments for law breakers.  Android apps are so cheap, I don&#8217;t know why anyone would go to much trouble to steal them anyway.  Thus, I wouldn&#8217;t get too up in arms about this hack.</p>
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