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		<title>By: Curtis</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-1542</link>
		<dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be worth it if I didn&#039;t already have an ipod, a internet connection and a darn good cellphone already. 3g isn&#039;t that fast if it takes 21 seconds to load a web page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be worth it if I didn&rsquo;t already have an ipod, a internet connection and a darn good cellphone already. 3g isn&rsquo;t that fast if it takes 21 seconds to load a web page.</p>
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		<title>By: Phani</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-998</link>
		<dc:creator>Phani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I want to buy iPhone, I really want to look for other alternatives. Sure iPhone has a great user interface, but I would like to see the alternatives available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I want to buy iPhone, I really want to look for other alternatives. Sure iPhone has a great user interface, but I would like to see the alternatives available.</p>
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		<title>By: owen</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i haven&#039;t seen any numbers on what the current iPhone contract costs - how does it compare to the new plans?  and does that argument still stand up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i haven&rsquo;t seen any numbers on what the current iPhone contract costs &ndash; how does it compare to the new plans?  and does that argument still stand up?</p>
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		<title>By: Ridcully</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>Ridcully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was being sarcastic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being sarcastic</p>
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		<title>By: phandroid.com</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>phandroid.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not very cool, since it is not true. The Samsung Instinct, to be released to the public on June 20th, is on a 3G network. The iPhone 3G doesn&#039;t come out until July 11th.

Ridcully FTL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not very cool, since it is not true. The Samsung Instinct, to be released to the public on June 20th, is on a 3G network. The iPhone 3G doesn&rsquo;t come out until July 11th.</p>
<p>Ridcully FTL</p>
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		<title>By: Ridcully</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-961</link>
		<dc:creator>Ridcully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Then be reminded that the device Mr. Jobs demonstrated this on was the only device in the universe running on the 3G network.&quot;, What? Apple have just released the worlds first 3G phone...How cool is that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&ldquo;Then be reminded that the device Mr. Jobs demonstrated this on was the only device in the universe running on the 3G network.&rdquo;, What? Apple have just released the worlds first 3G phone&hellip;How cool is that?</p>
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		<title>By: phandroid.com</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-960</link>
		<dc:creator>phandroid.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig...

I disagree that &quot;most other phone companies just ‘follow suit’&quot;. Years and years of R&amp;D have gone into the products you see today. Apple was able to make a legendary shift from computers to MP3 player icon. They took that same concept/technology and built a phone around it.

But as you say - the iPhone has only been around 1 year. The iPod isn&#039;t very old either, really. To say that other companies are just &quot;following&quot; Apple  I don&#039;t think gives them enough credit.

Now... I DEFINITELY agree with you that Apple has had a HUGE impact on the market. They&#039;ve DRASTICALLY increased the level of competition, forcing other manufacturers to react more quickly to consumer needs and demands. They have indeed completely revitalized the mobile phone landscape. I can&#039;t argue with that. The iPhone is a fantastic product and should be given a lot of credit for what it is.

Oh, and I think the word you&#039;re looking for is &quot;conceptualized.&quot; And, I completely disagree with you. In fact, you&#039;re just plain wrong. The walled garden problem and closed mobile ideology had been going on for YEARS prior to Apple. In fact, it&#039;s half the reason Apple was able to just waltz into the market!

Plus, a little research would show that GOOGLE actually BOUGHT a little company called Android in the summer of 2005. Here is the article from Business Week: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2005/tc20050817_0949_tc024.htm

As I&#039;ve said, these ideas aren&#039;t just dreamed up today and put into practice next week.

You do bring some good points to the table though, I agree. And you are right, the iPhone is already an INCREDIBLY proven product after a very short period of time. People do want to have the next &quot;iPhone Killer&quot; - as old and tired as that verbage has already become. And, Android is still just a concept.

Unfortunately, we&#039;ll just have to agree to disagree - Android is going to be something very, very special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig&hellip;</p>
<p>I disagree that &ldquo;most other phone companies just &lsquo;follow suit&rsquo;&rdquo;. Years and years of R&amp;D have gone into the products you see today. Apple was able to make a legendary shift from computers to MP3 player icon. They took that same concept/technology and built a phone around it.</p>
<p>But as you say &ndash; the iPhone has only been around 1 year. The iPod isn&rsquo;t very old either, really. To say that other companies are just &ldquo;following&rdquo; Apple  I don&rsquo;t think gives them enough credit.</p>
<p>Now&hellip; I DEFINITELY agree with you that Apple has had a HUGE impact on the market. They&rsquo;ve DRASTICALLY increased the level of competition, forcing other manufacturers to react more quickly to consumer needs and demands. They have indeed completely revitalized the mobile phone landscape. I can&rsquo;t argue with that. The iPhone is a fantastic product and should be given a lot of credit for what it is.</p>
<p>Oh, and I think the word you&rsquo;re looking for is &ldquo;conceptualized.&rdquo; And, I completely disagree with you. In fact, you&rsquo;re just plain wrong. The walled garden problem and closed mobile ideology had been going on for YEARS prior to Apple. In fact, it&rsquo;s half the reason Apple was able to just waltz into the market!</p>
<p>Plus, a little research would show that GOOGLE actually BOUGHT a little company called Android in the summer of 2005. Here is the article from Business Week: <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2005/tc20050817_0949_tc024.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/aug2005/tc20050817_0949_tc024.htm</a></p>
<p>As I&rsquo;ve said, these ideas aren&rsquo;t just dreamed up today and put into practice next week.</p>
<p>You do bring some good points to the table though, I agree. And you are right, the iPhone is already an INCREDIBLY proven product after a very short period of time. People do want to have the next &ldquo;iPhone Killer&rdquo; &ndash; as old and tired as that verbage has already become. And, Android is still just a concept.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, we&rsquo;ll just have to agree to disagree &ndash; Android is going to be something very, very special.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-959</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im sorry, but I have to say something. I appreciate your &#039;rant&#039; and understood it fully. I am also dissapointed with the some-what Mediocre iPhone 3G &#039;Upgrade&#039;. But I have to make my point.

Without the iPhone - manufactures (Of the Handset itself and the technology inside it) would not have made the jump to the next level of design and UI. Not to mention customer experience.

Why do you think mac OSX is so enjoyable to use? Because Apple understand that User Experience is important too. Nokia, Samsung, Lg and Co havent grasped this yet. (Well theyre trying)   ...Sony&#039;s X1, LG Viewty (and the like) Samsungs Omnia thingy or whatever it is. And of course the Android Platform.

But be honest - Would any of these &#039;next generation&#039; changes have occured without the iPhone innovative leap to the next level of User experience? I doubt it. 

Yes I agree the iPhone 3G COULD have been better - but Im still going to buy it because look - this is only Apple&#039;s 2nd Phone. Ever. Nokia and co have been making Phones for twenty years and wheather or no they decide to &#039;slap the android software&#039; into thier mobiles it still remains to be seen whether they will ever have such Iconic status or Cult following. My answer is no.

Imagine what new innovative Ideas apple CAN still pu into thier mobile devices. Whereas most other phone companies just &#039;follow suit&#039; to whatever Apple does next. Just watch - Once apple releases its iChat software and Video conferences in (I dont know) iPhone 4 or 5 ..Nokia, Samsung and the rest will all conveinently create thier &#039;own&#039; version to keep up with the times.

As good as Im sure Adroid is. It wouldnt have even been concepted (Is that a word?!) without the introduction of the iPhone. So I think more gratitude is needed here. 

Thanks iPhone for giving the mobile world the Kick in the arse it needed!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry, but I have to say something. I appreciate your &lsquo;rant&rsquo; and understood it fully. I am also dissapointed with the some-what Mediocre iPhone 3G &lsquo;Upgrade&rsquo;. But I have to make my point.</p>
<p>Without the iPhone &ndash; manufactures (Of the Handset itself and the technology inside it) would not have made the jump to the next level of design and UI. Not to mention customer experience.</p>
<p>Why do you think mac OSX is so enjoyable to use? Because Apple understand that User Experience is important too. Nokia, Samsung, Lg and Co havent grasped this yet. (Well theyre trying)   &hellip;Sony&rsquo;s X1, LG Viewty (and the like) Samsungs Omnia thingy or whatever it is. And of course the Android Platform.</p>
<p>But be honest &ndash; Would any of these &lsquo;next generation&rsquo; changes have occured without the iPhone innovative leap to the next level of User experience? I doubt it. </p>
<p>Yes I agree the iPhone 3G COULD have been better &ndash; but Im still going to buy it because look &ndash; this is only Apple&rsquo;s 2nd Phone. Ever. Nokia and co have been making Phones for twenty years and wheather or no they decide to &lsquo;slap the android software&rsquo; into thier mobiles it still remains to be seen whether they will ever have such Iconic status or Cult following. My answer is no.</p>
<p>Imagine what new innovative Ideas apple CAN still pu into thier mobile devices. Whereas most other phone companies just &lsquo;follow suit&rsquo; to whatever Apple does next. Just watch &ndash; Once apple releases its iChat software and Video conferences in (I dont know) iPhone 4 or 5 ..Nokia, Samsung and the rest will all conveinently create thier &lsquo;own&rsquo; version to keep up with the times.</p>
<p>As good as Im sure Adroid is. It wouldnt have even been concepted (Is that a word?!) without the introduction of the iPhone. So I think more gratitude is needed here. </p>
<p>Thanks iPhone for giving the mobile world the Kick in the arse it needed!!</p>
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		<title>By: phandroid.com</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-958</link>
		<dc:creator>phandroid.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More awesome iPhone news!
http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/12/the-real-iphone-3g-rip-off-text-messages/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More awesome iPhone news!<br />
<a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/12/the-real-iphone-3g-rip-off-text-messages/" rel="nofollow">http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/12/the-real-iphone-3g-rip-off-text-messages/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vikram</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-957</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree to most of the point you are saying, Phandroid. However I have not gone into the details of Android so I am in no position to comment on Android vs iPhone. But one point I would like to bring to everybody&#039;s notice is,

On the day when Steve gave his keynote about the most hyped, most rumored mobile phone of all time, the iPhone, he compared the 3G on iPhone with that of on the Nokia N95 8Gb, I agree that iPhone&#039;s 3G might be fast but Nokia does not make fools of people like Apple. They have phones for everyone who needs/aspires for a mobile phone. And if you, Mr Steve are comparing N95&#039;s 3G with that of your gadget then why didnt you compare other features like multimedia convergence, RAM and gaming platform. You comparing N95 in front of so many people shows that you are afraid of the N95 8GB and know that it will/might give tough times to Apple&#039;s iPhone. Wehn you are comparing two gadgets that compete you should compare all the features and not just one. Am I not right??. I have a blog and I also cover news and give my views on Mobile phones. I am not a hardcore Nokia fan but I truly respect Nokia and Sony Ericsson for the work they have done to bring entertainment, music, gaming and rich internet experiences to mobile phones. iPhone is just about the hype and the awesome multi-touch. I myself selected a iPod Touch over an iPhone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree to most of the point you are saying, Phandroid. However I have not gone into the details of Android so I am in no position to comment on Android vs iPhone. But one point I would like to bring to everybody&rsquo;s notice is,</p>
<p>On the day when Steve gave his keynote about the most hyped, most rumored mobile phone of all time, the iPhone, he compared the 3G on iPhone with that of on the Nokia N95 8Gb, I agree that iPhone&rsquo;s 3G might be fast but Nokia does not make fools of people like Apple. They have phones for everyone who needs/aspires for a mobile phone. And if you, Mr Steve are comparing N95&prime;s 3G with that of your gadget then why didnt you compare other features like multimedia convergence, RAM and gaming platform. You comparing N95 in front of so many people shows that you are afraid of the N95 8GB and know that it will/might give tough times to Apple&rsquo;s iPhone. Wehn you are comparing two gadgets that compete you should compare all the features and not just one. Am I not right??. I have a blog and I also cover news and give my views on Mobile phones. I am not a hardcore Nokia fan but I truly respect Nokia and Sony Ericsson for the work they have done to bring entertainment, music, gaming and rich internet experiences to mobile phones. iPhone is just about the hype and the awesome multi-touch. I myself selected a iPod Touch over an iPhone.</p>
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		<title>By: phandroid.com</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-955</link>
		<dc:creator>phandroid.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it helps with reception and gps, then I&#039;m glad they made the change. I find both of those more important than appearance. However, a ton of current iPhone owners have noted their dissappointment as the metallic texture and feel gave the iPhone more of a sturdy, tough, unbreakable aspect that you don&#039;t really see in other phones.

And, the whole &quot;plastic will scratch easier,&quot; comment has been made a whole lot too. This isn&#039;t just me talking... its an observation I&#039;ve seen from APPLE fanboys almost across the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it helps with reception and gps, then I&rsquo;m glad they made the change. I find both of those more important than appearance. However, a ton of current iPhone owners have noted their dissappointment as the metallic texture and feel gave the iPhone more of a sturdy, tough, unbreakable aspect that you don&rsquo;t really see in other phones.</p>
<p>And, the whole &ldquo;plastic will scratch easier,&rdquo; comment has been made a whole lot too. This isn&rsquo;t just me talking&hellip; its an observation I&rsquo;ve seen from APPLE fanboys almost across the board.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-954</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the plastic back is very tough plastic andthe reason for this switch is not price but for better reception and to help the gps, nice try though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the plastic back is very tough plastic andthe reason for this switch is not price but for better reception and to help the gps, nice try though</p>
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		<title>By: phandroid.com</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-952</link>
		<dc:creator>phandroid.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^^^^^^^^^
&quot;Because you are so dumb,&quot;

Hahahah, that was pretty funny. Good one. 
+1 vote for comment of the month

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^^^^^^^^^<br />
&#8220;Because you are so dumb,&#8221;</p>
<p>Hahahah, that was pretty funny. Good one.<br />
+1 vote for comment of the month</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Blank</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>Blank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59secs compared to 21 seconds is a big leap, you need to think before you make unnecessary rants! Because you are so dumb, you haven&#039;t realized how much good apple has done by selling the iphone for $199, it will force the competition to sell phones cheaper so we as consumers win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59secs compared to 21 seconds is a big leap, you need to think before you make unnecessary rants! Because you are so dumb, you haven&rsquo;t realized how much good apple has done by selling the iphone for $199, it will force the competition to sell phones cheaper so we as consumers win.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://phandroid.com/2008/06/10/iphone-3g-deceitfully-mediocre/#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I agree and disagree with you at the same time. I agree the applications are very nice with the iPhone and that is a huge selling point. In fact that is one of the things I love about my wife&#039;s jailbroken iPhone now. The problem for the iPhone 2.0 is with the Apple SDK. Currently, it is very restrictive and that limits the features an application can provided through the Apple store, not counting jailbroken apps through installer. This is one reason I am looking forward to Android. The Android SDK looks to allow a much larger range of functionality. This means the apps will have the potential for a lot more functionality, only time will tell if they really do. 

Don&#039;t get me wrong I like Apple and I like the iPhone, we even own one. If you had asked me last week I would have told you that I was going to buy the 3G version as soon as it hit. The announcement on Monday  was &quot;mediocre&quot; enough to make me change my mind. So I have no choice but to agree with the author of this article. Do I think Android is some mythical software that will solve all my problems? No, certainly not. But when I look at the options available right now iPhone, Symbian or WinMo none of them seem to be what am looking for. Apple has the looks but doesn&#039;t put-out. WinMo is the reverse and Symbian just doesn&#039;t have much. That means I need to wait for LiMo or Android and hope one of them has the total package (for me). From what I&#039;ve seen in videos of Android it appears that it may have what I seek, then again so did Apple...last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I agree and disagree with you at the same time. I agree the applications are very nice with the iPhone and that is a huge selling point. In fact that is one of the things I love about my wife&rsquo;s jailbroken iPhone now. The problem for the iPhone 2.0 is with the Apple SDK. Currently, it is very restrictive and that limits the features an application can provided through the Apple store, not counting jailbroken apps through installer. This is one reason I am looking forward to Android. The Android SDK looks to allow a much larger range of functionality. This means the apps will have the potential for a lot more functionality, only time will tell if they really do. </p>
<p>Don&rsquo;t get me wrong I like Apple and I like the iPhone, we even own one. If you had asked me last week I would have told you that I was going to buy the 3G version as soon as it hit. The announcement on Monday  was &ldquo;mediocre&rdquo; enough to make me change my mind. So I have no choice but to agree with the author of this article. Do I think Android is some mythical software that will solve all my problems? No, certainly not. But when I look at the options available right now iPhone, Symbian or WinMo none of them seem to be what am looking for. Apple has the looks but doesn&rsquo;t put-out. WinMo is the reverse and Symbian just doesn&rsquo;t have much. That means I need to wait for LiMo or Android and hope one of them has the total package (for me). From what I&rsquo;ve seen in videos of Android it appears that it may have what I seek, then again so did Apple&hellip;last week.</p>
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